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**'''January 1988 ''Ensign''''': '''"Once Martin found a rock closely resembling the seerstone Joseph sometimes used in place of the interpreters and substituted it without the Prophet’s knowledge.''' When the translation resumed, Joseph paused for a long time and then exclaimed, “Martin, what is the matter, all is as dark as Egypt.” Martin then confessed that he wished to “stop the mouths of fools” who told him that the Prophet memorized sentences and merely repeated them." —{{Ensign|author=Kenneth W. Godfrey|article=[http://www.lds.org/ensign/1988/01/a-new-prophet-and-a-new-scripture-the-coming-forth-of-the-book-of-mormon A New Prophet and a New Scripture: The Coming Forth of the Book of Mormon]|date=Jan 1988|pages6-13,(both quotations on page 11)}}
 
**'''January 1988 ''Ensign''''': '''"Once Martin found a rock closely resembling the seerstone Joseph sometimes used in place of the interpreters and substituted it without the Prophet’s knowledge.''' When the translation resumed, Joseph paused for a long time and then exclaimed, “Martin, what is the matter, all is as dark as Egypt.” Martin then confessed that he wished to “stop the mouths of fools” who told him that the Prophet memorized sentences and merely repeated them." —{{Ensign|author=Kenneth W. Godfrey|article=[http://www.lds.org/ensign/1988/01/a-new-prophet-and-a-new-scripture-the-coming-forth-of-the-book-of-mormon A New Prophet and a New Scripture: The Coming Forth of the Book of Mormon]|date=Jan 1988|pages6-13,(both quotations on page 11)}}
 
**'''July 1993 ''Ensign''''': "David Whitmer wrote: ' '''Joseph Smith would put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light'''; and in the darkness the spiritual light would shine.'" <br>&mdash;Russell M. Nelson, “A Treasured Testament,” ''Ensign'', Jul 1993, 61. {{ea}} {{link|url=http://www.lds.org/ensign/1993/07/a-treasured-testament}}
 
**'''July 1993 ''Ensign''''': "David Whitmer wrote: ' '''Joseph Smith would put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light'''; and in the darkness the spiritual light would shine.'" <br>&mdash;Russell M. Nelson, “A Treasured Testament,” ''Ensign'', Jul 1993, 61. {{ea}} {{link|url=http://www.lds.org/ensign/1993/07/a-treasured-testament}}
**'''January 2013 ''Ensign''''': "Some of the Prophet Joseph’s earliest revelations came through the same means by which he translated the Book of Mormon from the gold plates. . . .He described the instrument as “spectacles” and referred to it using an Old Testament term, Urim and Thummim. . . . He also sometimes applied the term to other stones he possessed, called “seer stones” because they aided him in receiving revelations as a seer. The Prophet received some early revelations through the use of these seer stones." (NOTE: This was published after the author constructed his "Letter to a CES Director.")
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**'''January 2013 ''Ensign''''': "Some of the Prophet Joseph’s earliest revelations came through the same means by which he translated the Book of Mormon from the gold plates. . . .He described the instrument as “spectacles” and referred to it using an Old Testament term, Urim and Thummim. . . . He also sometimes applied the term to other stones he possessed, called “seer stones” because they aided him in receiving revelations as a seer. The Prophet received some early revelations through the use of these seer stones." {{link|url=http://www.lds.org/ensign/2013/01/great-and-marvelous-are-the-revelations-of-god?lang=eng}} (NOTE: This was published after the author constructed his "Letter to a CES Director.")
 
*Regarding the fact that the Joseph Smith papyri does not contain the text of the Book of Abraham, we find the following on lds.org:
 
*Regarding the fact that the Joseph Smith papyri does not contain the text of the Book of Abraham, we find the following on lds.org:
 
**'''March 1976 ''Ensign:''''' A Book of Breathings text that closely matches the Joseph Smith version (and there are precious few of them) is the so-called Kerasher Book of Breathings. It too has a frontispiece, only in this case it is the same as our Facsimile No. 3, showing that it too is closely associated with our text." <br>&mdash;Hugh Nibley, “I Have a Question,” Ensign, Mar. 1976, 34–36 {{Link|url=http://www.lds.org/ensign/1976/03/i-have-a-question}}
 
**'''March 1976 ''Ensign:''''' A Book of Breathings text that closely matches the Joseph Smith version (and there are precious few of them) is the so-called Kerasher Book of Breathings. It too has a frontispiece, only in this case it is the same as our Facsimile No. 3, showing that it too is closely associated with our text." <br>&mdash;Hugh Nibley, “I Have a Question,” Ensign, Mar. 1976, 34–36 {{Link|url=http://www.lds.org/ensign/1976/03/i-have-a-question}}

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