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|L1=Levi O. C. Nicklin (18 Jan 1841): "To prove the divinity of the book he assured us that a prophecy, and the description of certain cities in South America were accurately laid down"
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|L2=Parley P. Pratt (Feb 1841): "What heart can be so indifferent as not to wish to peruse the record of half a world?"
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|L3=Benjamin Winchester (1 Mar 1841): "The antiquities of America spread from the great lakes of the North and the West to Central America, and the Southern parts of Peru on the South"
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|L4=Walter Scott (1 May 1841): "Having already shown that the Book of Mormon describes the christian religion as being on the Western Continent..."
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|L5=Times and Seasons (15 Jun 1841): "We feel great pleasure in laying before our readers the following interesting account of the Antiquities of central America"
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|L6=Book of Mormon and the Mormonites (Jul 1841): "The history of the settlements of the emigrants in North and South America"
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|L7=Millennial Star (2 Jul 1841): "Canada on the north, Oregon on the West, Mexico on the south, together with all the tribes in central and South America"
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|L8=Times and Seasons (15 Jul 1841): "I have always thought that there had been a more enlightened people on this continent, than the present Indians"
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|L9=Chas. W. Wandell (27 Jul 1841): "in speaking of the writing found on the ruins of the stone city found in Mexico"
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|L10=Christian Advocate and Journal (29 Jul 1841): "This little band, after wandering long and far, came at last to America, and planted themselves in the western part of the present State of New York"
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|L11=Wilford Woodruff (13 Sep 1841): "a flood of testimony in proof of the book of mormon in the discovery & survey of the city Copan"
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|L12=Parley P. Pratt (15 Nov 1841): "with it their prophecies and their testimony of Jesus as the risen Messiah and the Saviour of the world, not of Asia only, but of America also"
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|L13=Times and Seasons (15 Nov 1841): "The bible was written by a people upon the Eastern continent, but the Book of Mormon by a people upon this continent"
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|L14=Joseph Smith (16 Nov 1841): "I received your kind present...of all histories that have been written pertaining to the antiquities of this country it is the most correct"
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{{:Source:Levi Nicklin:18 Jan 1841:To prove the divinity of the book he assured us that a prophecy, and the description of certain cities in South America were accurately laid down}}
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{{:Source:Parley P. Pratt:Feb 1841:What heart can be so indifferent as not to wish to peruse the record of half a world?}}
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{{:Source:Winchester:1 Mar 1841:The antiquities of America spread from the great lakes of the North and the West to Central America, and the Southern parts of Peru on the South}}
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{{:Source:Walter Scott:1 May 1841:Having already shown that the Book of Mormon describes the christian religion as being on the Western Continent}}
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{{:Source:Times and Seasons:15 Jun 1841:We feel great pleasure in laying before our readers the following interesting account of the Antiquities of central America}}
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{{:Source:Book of Mormon and the Mormonites:Jul 1841:The history of the settlements of the emigrants in North and South America}}
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{{:Source:Millennial Star:2 Jul 1841:Canada on the north, Oregon on the West, Mexico on the south, together with all the tribes in central and South America}}
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{{:Source:Times and Seasons:15 Jul 1841:I have always thought that there had been a more enlightened people on this continent, than the present Indians}}
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{{:Source:Chas. W. Wandell:27 Jul 1841:in speaking of the writing found on the ruins of the stone city found in Mexico}}
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{{:Source:Christian Advocate and Journal:29 Jul 1841:This little band, after wandering long and far, came at last to America, and planted themselves in the western part of the present State of New York}}
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{{:Source:Wilford Woodruff:13 Sep 1841:a flood of testimony in proof of the book of mormon in the discovery & survey of the city Copan}}
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{{:Source:Parley P. Pratt:15 Nov 1841:with it their prophecies and their testimony of Jesus as the risen Messiah and the Saviour of the world, not of Asia only, but of America also}}
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{{:Source:Times and Seasons:15 Nov 1841:The bible was written by a people upon the Eastern continent, but the Book of Mormon by a people upon this continent}}
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{{:Source:Joseph Smith:Bernhisel letter:1841:I received your kind present...of all histories that have been written pertaining to the antiquities of this country it is the most correct}}
 
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====15 June 1841: ''Times and Seasons'': quotes from Calderwood and Stephens' book====
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: "American Antiquities&mdash;More Proofs of the Book of Mormon"
 
 
 
:We feel great pleasure in laying before our readers the following interesting account of the Antiquities of central America, which have been discovered by two eminent travellers who have spent considerable labor, to bring to light the remains of ancient buildings, architecture &c., which prove beyond controversy that, on this vast continent, once flourished a mighty people, skilled in the arts and sciences, and whose splendor would not be eclipsed by any of the nations of Antiquity a people once high and exalted in the scale of intelligence, but now like their ancient buildings, fallen into ruins.
 
 
 
:From the (New York) weekly Herald....{{ref|ts.15.june.1841}}
 
 
 
====13 Sept 1841: Wilford Woodruff cites the city of Copan as "proof of the Book of Mormon"====
 
 
 
Wilford Woodruff on John L. Stephens, ''Incidents of Travel in Central America, Chiapas, and Yucatan'':
 
 
 
:I felt truly interested in this work for it brought to light a flood of testimony in proof of the book of mormon in the discovery & survey of the city <u>Copan</u> in Central America…{{ref|ww.1841}}
 
 
 
====16 November 1841: Joseph dictates the Bernhisel letter====
 
 
 
John Bernhisel joined the LDS Church in 1837 while practicing medicine in New York City. In 1841 he was ordained bishop of the congregation in New York City. Bernhisel was a well-educated man, and in 1841 read ''Incidents of Travel in Central America, Chiapas, and Yucatan'' by John L. Stephens.
 
 
 
Impressed by the book, Bernhisel gave the two-volume work to Wilford Woodruff in September 1841 with instructions to make sure it was given to Joseph Smith. Woodruff, who was on his way back from England to Nauvoo, delivered the book, as requested.
 
 
 
It would appear that Joseph appreciated receiving the book, as he wrote a letter to Bernhisel acknowledging the gift. Dated November 16, 1841, the first paragraph of the letter is as follows:
 
 
 
:I received your kind present by the hand of Er Woodruff & feel myself under many obligations for this mark of your esteem & friendship which to me is the more interesting as it unfolds & developes many things that are of great importance to this generation & corresponds with & supports the testimony of the Book of Mormon; I have read the volumes with the greatest interest & pleasure & must say that of all histories that have been written pertaining to the antiquities of this country it is the most correct luminous & comprihensive.{{ref|bernhisel.nov16}}
 
 
 
====1 March 1842: Wentworth letter====
 
 
 
:I was also informed concerning the aboriginal inhabitants of this country, and shown who they were, and from whence they came; a brief sketch of their origin, progress, civilization, laws, governments, of their righteousness and iniquity, and the blessings of God being finally withdrawn from them as a people was made known unto me: I was also told where there was deposited some plates on which were engraven an abridgement [abridgment] of the records of the ancient prophets that had existed on this continent....
 
 
 
:The principal nation of the second race fell in battle towards the close of the fourth century. The remnant are the Indians that now inhabit this country. This book also tells us that our Saviour [Savior] made his appearance upon this continent after his resurrection, that he planted the gospel here in all its fulness [fullness], and richness, and power, and blessing; that they had apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers and evangelists; the same order, the same priesthood, the same ordinances, gifts, powers, and blessing, as was enjoyed on the eastern continent, that the people were cut off in consequence of their transgressions…{{ref|JS.1842a}}
 
 
 
====March 1842: Parley P. Pratt====
 
 
 
Parley P. Pratt in England wrote of “ruins in Central America” providing Book of Mormon evidence in the ''Millennial Star''.  He cited extensively from Stephens and Catherwood's work on Central American archaeology, and then wrote:
 
 
 
:We publish the foregoing for the purpose of giving our readers some ideas of the antiquities of the Nephites—of their ancient cities, temples, monuments, towers, fortifications, and inscriptions now in ruin amid the solitude of an almost impenetrable forest; but fourteen hundred years since, in the days of Mormon, they were the abodes of thousands and millions of human beings, and the centre of civil and military operations unsurpassed in any age or country.
 
 
 
:What a satisfaction it is for the lovers of intelligence to realize, that while the minds of Mr. stephens and many others of the learned world have been and still are enveloped in mystery, impenetrable, dark, and drear on the subject of ancient America; and while they contemplate the ruins of a nation, whose very name as they say is lost in oblivion, and whose history they say has not come down to us; we have their entire history,Otheir origin, laws, government, religion, wars, and lastly their destruction; lately discovered in their own hand-writing, unfolded by the power of him whose Nspirit searches all things, yea, the deep things o f GodMOby him who has declared that there is nothing secret that shall not be revealed, and nothing hid that shall not be known, and come abroad, and that this history is now extensively published on both sides of the Atlantic, and tens of thousands of copies of it are multiplied and scattered among the people. The "mytery" which Mr. stephens and the wise men of Babylon acknowledge themselves entirely unable to fathom, has by a God in heaven that revealeth secrets, been opened, brought forth from amid the mouldering archives and sepulchral ruins of a nation and a country before unknown to the other parts of the world. It is a striking and extraordinary coincidence, that, in the Book of Mormon, commencing page 563, there is an account of many cities as existing among the Nephites on the "narrow neck of land which connected the north country with the south country;" and Mormon names a number of them, which were strongly fortified, and were the theatres of tremendous battles, and that finally the Nephites were destroyed or driven to the northward, from year to year, and their towns and country made most desolate, until the remnant became extinct on the memorable heights of cumorah (now western New York),OI say it is remarkable that Mr. smith, in translating the Book of Mormon from 1827 to 1830, should mention the names and circumstances of those towns and fortifications in this very section of country, where a Mr stephens, ten years afterwards, penetrated a dense forest, till then unexplored by modern travellers , and actually fines the ruins of those very cities mentioned by Mormon.
 
 
 
:The nameless nation of which he speaks were the Nephites.
 
 
 
:The lost record for which he mourns is the ''Book of Mormon''.
 
 
 
:The architects, orators, statesmen, and generals, whose works and monuments he admires, are, ''Alma, Moroni, Helaman, Nephi, Mormon,'' and their cotemporaries.
 
 
 
:The very cities whose ruins are in his estimation without a name are called in the Book of Mormon, "Teancum, Boaz, Jordan, Desolation," &c.{{ref|pratt.star.mar.1842}}
 
 
 
====15 July 1842: Joseph Smith discusses high civilization in the Americas, uses mound-builders and Guatemalan ruins as an example====
 
<small>NOTE: Page 862 of this issue of the ''Times and Seasons'' states: "The Times and Seasons, Is edited, printed and published about the first and fifteenth of every month, on the corner of Water and Bain Streets, Nauvoo, Hancock County, Illinois, by JOSEPH SMITH"</small>
 
 
 
:If men, in their researches into the history of this country, in noticing the mounds, fortifications, statues, architecture, implements of war, of husbandry, and ornaments of silver, brass, &c.-were to examine the Book of Mormon, their conjectures would be removed, and their opinions altered; uncertainty and doubt would be changed into certainty and facts; and they would find that those things that they are anxiously prying into were matters of history, unfolded in that book. They would find their conjectures were more than realized-that a great and a mighty people had inhabited this continent-that the arts sciences and religion, had prevailed to a very great extent, and that there was as great and mighty cities on this continent as on the continent of Asia. Babylon, Ninevah, nor any of the ruins of the Levant could boast of more perfect sculpture, better architectural designs, and more imperishable ruins, than what are found on this continent. Stephens and Catherwood's researches in Central America abundantly testify of this thing. The stupendous ruins, the elegant sculpture, and the magnificence of the ruins of Guatamala [Guatemala], and other cities, corroborate this statement, and show that a great and mighty people-men of great minds, clear intellect, bright genius, and comprehensive designs inhabited this continent. Their ruins speak of their greatness; the Book of Mormen [Mormon} unfolds their history.-ED.{{ref|ts.15July}}
 
 
 
This statement was signed "ED," which attributes it directly to Joseph Smith.
 
 
 
====15 Sept. 1842: Speculation that Palenque is a Nephite city====
 
<small>NOTE: Page 926 of this issue of the ''Times and Seasons'' states: "The Times and Seasons, Is edited, printed and published about the first fifteenth of every month, on the corner of Water and Bain Streets, Nauvoo, Hancock County, Illinois, by JOSEPH SMITH."</small>
 
 
 
Although Joseph Smith is listed as the editor at this time, opinions vary on whether it may have actually been either John Taylor or Wilford Woodruff who wrote this unsigned article.{{ref|godfrey1}}{{ref|clark1}} John Taylor later became the editor of ''Times and Seasons''. Regardless of whether it was Joseph Smith, Wilford Woodruff, or John Taylor who wrote this article, its publication occurred prior to the death of Joseph Smith. The subject being discussed is a very popular book by John L. Stephens, ''Incidents of Travel in Central America, Chiapas, and Yucatan'', which Joseph Smith read and enjoyed:
 
 
 
:Mr Stephens' great developments of antiquities are made bare to the eyes of all the people by reading the history of the Nephites in the Book of Mormon. ''They lived about the narrow neck of land, which now embraces Central America, with all the cities that can be found.'' Read the destruction of cities at the crucifixion of Christ...Let us turn our subject, however, to the Book of Mormon, where ''these wonderful ruins of Palenque are among the mighty works of the Nephites'':&mdash;and the mystery is solved...Mr. Stephens' great developments of antiquities are made bare to the eyes of all the people by reading the history of the Nephites in the Book of Mormon. They lived about the narrow neck of land, which now embraces Central America, with all the cities that can be found. Read the destruction of cities at the crucifixion of Christ, pages 459-60. Who could have dreamed that twelve years would have developed such incontrovertible testimony to the Book of Mormon?{{ref|ts1}} {{ea}}
 
 
 
====15 Sept 1842: "Facts are Stubborn Things'', ''Times and Seasons''====
 
 
 
:When we read in the Book of Mormon that Jared and his brother came on to this continent from the confusion and scattering at the Tower, and lived here more than a thousand years, and covered the whole continent from sea to sea, with towns and cities; and that Lehi went down by the Red sea to the great southern ocean, and crossed over to this land, and landed a little south of the Isthmus of Darien, and improved the country according to the word of the Lord, as a branch of the house of Israel, and then read such a goodly traditionary account, as the one below, we can not but think the Lord has a hand in bringing to pass his strange act, and proving the Book of Mormon true in the eyes of all the people. The extract below, comes as near the real fact, as the four Evangelists do to the crucifixion of Jesus.&mdash;Surely "facts are stubborn things." It will be as it ever has been, the world will prove Joseph smith a true prophet by circumstantial evidence, ''in experiments'', as they did Moses and Elijah. Now read Stephens' story:
 
 
 
:"According to Fuentes, the chronicler of the kingdom of Guatimala, the kings of Quinche and cachiquel were descended from the Toltecan Indians, who, when they came into this country, found it already inhabited by people of different nations. According to the the manuscripts of Don Juan Torres, the grandson of the last king of the Quiches, which was in the po ssession of the lieutenant general appointed by Pedro de Alvarado, and which Fuentes says he obtained by means of Father Francis vasques, the historian of the order of san Francis, the Toltecas themselves descended from the house of Israel, who were released by Moses from the tyranny of Pharaoh, and after crossing the Red sea, fell into Idolatry. To avoid the reproofs of Moses, or from fear of his inflicting upon them some chastisement, they separated from him and his brethren, and under the guidance of Tanub, their chief, passed from one continent to the other, to a place which they called the seven caverns, a part of the kingdom of Mexico, where
 
they founded the celebrated city of Tula."{{ref|facts.are.stubborn}}
 
 
 
Note that the author regards south of the ithmus of Darien (Panama) as being part of "the whole continent."  He likewise invokes purported myths from Guatemala and other Central American areas as evidence for the Book of Mormon.
 
 
 
====1 Oct. 1842: Zarahemla "stood upon this land" of Central America====
 
<small>NOTE: Page 942 of this issue of the ''Times and Seasons'' states: "The Times and Seasons, Is edited, printed and published about the first fifteenth of every month, on the corner of Water and Bain Streets, Nauvoo, Hancock County, Illinois, by JOSEPH SMITH."</small>
 
 
 
:[W]e have found another important fact relating to the truth of the Book of Mormon. ''Central America, or Guatimala [Guatemala], is situated north of the Isthmus of Darien and once embraced several hundred miles of territory from north to south.-The city of Zarahemla, burnt at the crucifixion of the Savior, and rebuilt afterwards, stood upon this land'' as will be seen from the following words in the book of Alma...It is certainly a good thing for the excellency and veracity, of the divine authenticity of the Book of Mormon, that the ruins of Zarahemla have been found where the Nephites left them: and that a large stone with engravings upon it as Mosiah said; and a 'large round stone, with the sides sculptured in hieroglyphics,' as Mr. Stephens has published, is also among the left remembrances of the, (to him,) lost and unknown. We are not going to declare positively that the ruins of Quirigua are those of Zarahemla, but when the land and the stones, and the books tell the story so plain, we are of opinion, that it would require more proof than the Jews could bring to prove the disciples stole the body of Jesus from the tomb, to prove that the ruins of the city in question, are not one of those referred to in the Book of Mormon...''It will not be a bad plan to compare Mr. Stephens' ruined cities with those in the Book of Mormon'': light cleaves to light, and facts are supported by facts.{{ref|ts2}} {{ea}}
 
 
 
====1 Nov. 1842: Yucutan ruins appealed to as evidence====
 
 
 
The ruins of ''Chi-Chen'' are discussed; no commentary is included.{{ref|ts.15.nov.1842}}
 
 
 
====1 May 1843: "Ancient Records": ''Times and Seasons''====
 
 
 
Appeals to Mexico and Central America as evidence:
 
 
 
:Circumstances are daily transpiring which give additional testimony to the authenticity of the Book of Mormon. A few years ago, although supported by indubitable, unimpeachable testimony, it was looked upon in the same light by the world in general, and by the religious world in particular, as the expedition of columbus to this continent was by the different courts that he visited, and laid his project before. The literati looked upon his expedition as wild and visionary, they suspected very much the integrity of his
 
pretensions, and looked upon him&mdash;to say the least&mdash;as a fool, for entertaining such wild
 
and visionary views....
 
 
 
:So when the Book of Mormon first made its appearance among men, it was looked upon by many as a wild speculation, and that it was dangerous to the interest and happiness of the religious world; but when it was found to teach virtue, honesty, integrity, and pure religion, this objection was laid aside, as being untenable. we were then told that the inhabitants of this continent were, and always had been, a rude barbarous race, uncouth, unlettered, and without civilization. But when they were told of the various relics that have been found indicative of civilization, intelligence and learning; when they
 
were told of the wealth, architecture and splendor of ancient Mexico; when recent developements proved beyond a doubt, that there was ancient ruins in central America, which, in point of magnificence, beauty, strength and architectural design, would vie with any of the most splendid ruins on the Asiatic continent; when they could trace the fine delineations of the sculptorKs chisel, on the beautiful statue, the mysterious hieroglyphic, and the unknown character, they begun to believe that a wise, powerful, intelligent and scientific race had inhabited this continent....{{ref|ts.1.may.1843}}
 
 
 
====27 August 1843: Orson Pratt believes that the Book of Mormon names Central American cities====
 
 
 
Wilford Woodruff wrote of Orson Pratt speaking about the Catherwood and Stephens volume:
 
 
 
:[Orson Pratt] spoke in an edifying manner concerning the Book of Mormon its history what it was &c. That it was a History of nearly one half of the globe & the people that inhabited it, that it gave a history of all those cities that have been of late discovered by Catherwood & Stephens, that it named those cities.{{ref|orson.pratt.27.aug.1843}}
 
 
 
====1 October 1843: Central American cities provide "circumstantial evidence" of the Book of Mormon====
 
 
 
Unsigned editorial in the ''Times and Seasons'' (John Taylor was editor):
 
 
 
:We have lately perused with great interest, Stephen's works on Central America, Chiapas, and Yucatan.
 
 
 
:Mr. Stephens published about two years ago, a very interesting work entitled 'Incidents of travel in Central America, Chiapas and Yucatan,' in which he details very many interesting circumstances; discovered the ruins of magnificent cities, and form hieroglyphical representations, sculpture and rich specimens of architecture, proved one important fact, which had been disputed by many of our sages; that America had once been peopled by a highly polished, civilized and scientific race, with whom the present aborigines could not compare.
 
 
 
:This work has been read with great interest throughout this continent, and tens of thousands of copies have been sent to, and sold in Europe, where it has been investigated with the greatest scrutiny and interest. It has already passed through twelve editions; it is published in two volumes, 8 vo.
 
 
 
:Since the publication of this work, Mr. Stephens has again visited Central America, in company with Mr. Catherwood, and other scientific gentlemen, for the purpose of making further explorations among those already interesting ruins. They took with them the Daguerreotype, and other apparatus, for the purpose of giving views and drawings of those mysterious relics of antiquity. His late travels and discoveries, have also been published in two volumes of the same size, entitled 'Incidents of travel in Central America.'
 
 
 
:It is a work of great interest, written with precision and accuracy. The plates are elegantly executed, and its history unfolds the ruins of grandeur, civilization and intelligence. It is published by Harper & Brothers, N. Y.
 
 
 
:This is a work that ought to be in the hands of every Latter Day Saint; corroborating, as it does the history of the Book of Mormon. There is no stronger circumstantial evidence of the authenticity of the latter book, can be given, than that contained in Mr. Stephens' works.
 
 
 
:Mr. Stephens gives an account of ancient cities he has visited, where once dwelt the powerful, the wise, the scientific, and to use his own words; 'architecture, sculpture and painting, all the arts which embellished life had flourished in this overgrown city; orators, warriors, and statesmen, beauty, ambition, and glory, had lived and passed away, and none knew that such things had been, or could tell of their past existence.' In the last clause, Mr. Catherwood is mistaken. It has fallen to his lot to explore the ruins of this once mighty people, but the 'Book of Mormon' unfolds their history; and published as it was, years before these discoveries were made, and giving as it does, accounts of a people, and of cities that bear a striking resemblance to those mentioned by Mr. Stephens, both in regard to magnificence and location, it affords the most indubitable testimony of the historical truth of that book, which has been treated so lightly by the literati and would be philosophers of the present age.
 
 
 
:For the information of our friends who do not possess this work, we may at a convenient time collect and compare many of the important items in this work, and in the Book of Mormon, and publish them. To give some idea of the nature of the last work, we publish the following from the preface:
 
 
 
:"In his 'Incidents of Travel in Central America, Chiapas and Yucatan,' the author intimates his intention to make a thorough exploration of the ruins of the latter country. That intention has been carried into effect, and the following pages are the result. They describe, as the author has reason to believe, the most extensive journeying ever made by a stranger in that peninsula, and contain the account of visits to forty four ruined cities or palaces, in which the remains or vestiges of ancient population, were found. The existence of most of these ruins was entirely unknown to the residents of the capital -- but few had ever been visited by white inhabitants -- they were desolate and overgrown with trees. For a brief space, the stillness that reigned about them was broken and they were again left to solitude and silence. Time and the elements are hastening them to utter destruction. In a few generations, great edifices, their facades covered with sculptured ornaments, already croaking and yawning, must fall, and become mere shapeless mounds. It has been the fortune of the author to step between them and the destruction to which they are destined, and it is his hope to snatch from oblivion these perishing, but still gigantic memorials of a mysterious people."{{ref|ts.1.oct.1843}}
 
 
 
====1 January 1844: ''Times and Seasons''====
 
:Every day adds fresh testimony to the already accumulated evidence on the here was very little known about ruined cities and dilapidated buildings. The general presumption was, that no people possessing more intelligence than our present race of Indians had ever inhabited this continent, and the accounts given in the Book of Mormon concerning large cities and civilized people having inhabited this land, was generally disbelieved and pronounced a humbug. Priest, since then has thrown some light on this interesting has thrown in a flood of testimony, and from the following statements it is evident that the Book of Mormon does not give a more extensive account of large and populous cities than those discoveries now demonstrate to be even in existence. ED
 
  
:(From the Texas Telegraph, Oct. 11.)
 
  
:We have been informed by a gentleman who has traversed a large portion of the Indian country of Northern Texas, and the country lying between Santa Fe and the Pacific, that there are vestiges of ancient cities and ruined castles or temples on the Rio Puerco and on the Colorado of the west. He says that on one of the branches of the Rio Puerco, a few days travel from Santa Fe, there is an immense pile of ruins that appear to belong to an ancient temple....Neither the Indians residing in the vicinity, nor the oldest Spanish settlers of the nearest settlements, can give any account of the origin of these buildings. They merely know that they have stood there f rom the earliest periods to which their traditions extend. The antiquarian who is desirous to trace the Aztic or Toltec races in their migrations from the northern regions of America, may find in these ancient edifices many subjects of curious speculation.{{ref|ts.1.jan.1844}}
 
  
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#{{note|JS.1842a}} {{TS1|author=Joseph Smith|article=Church History|vol=3|num=9|date=1 March 1842|start=707}}. See also {{HC|vol=4|start=535|end=541}}. 
 
#{{note|ts.15July}} {{TS1|author=Joseph Smith (editor)|article=American Antiquities|vol=3|num=18|date=15 July 1842|pages=858&ndash;860}} {{link|http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/BOMP&CISOPTR=3421&REC=16}}
 
#{{note|pratt.star.mar.1842}} {{MS1|article=Ruins in Central America|vol=2|num=11|date=March 1842|pages=161–65}} {{link|url=http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/BOMP&CISOPTR=3303&REC=3}}
 
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#{{note|facts.are.stubborn}} {{TS1|article=Facts are Stubborn Things|vol=3|num=22|date=15 September 1842|start=921&ndash;922}} {{link|url=http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/BOMP&CISOPTR=3503&REC=18}}
 
#{{note|ts2}} {{TS1|article=Zarahemla|vol=3|num=23|date=1 October 1842|start=927}} {{link|url=http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/BOMP&CISOPTR=3475&REC=20}}
 
#{{note|ts.15.nov.1842}} {{TS1|Ruins Recently Discovered in Yucatan Mexico|vol=4|num=1|date=15 November 1842|pages=15–16}} {{link|url=http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/BOMP&CISOPTR=3471&REC=2}}
 
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#{{note|orson.pratt.27.aug.1843}} {{WWJ1|vol=2|start=282|date=27 August 1843}}
 
#{{note|ts.1.oct.1843}} {{TS1|article=Stephen's[sic] Works on Central America|vol=4|num=22|date=1 October 1843|pages=346&ndash;347}} {{link|url=http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/BOMP&CISOPTR=3829&REC=1}}
 
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#{{note|ts.1.jan.1844}}{{TS1|author="ED" [John Taylor]|article=Ancient Records|vol=5|num=1|date=1 Jan 1844|pages=390&ndash;391}} {{link|url=http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/BOMP&CISOPTR=4147&REC=4}}
 

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Nineteenth Century: Statements on Book of Mormon geography made during Joseph Smith's lifetime: 1841



A FAIR Analysis of: Statements about Book of Mormon geography, a work by author: Various

Nineteenth Century: Statements on Book of Mormon geography made during Joseph Smith's lifetime: 1841


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Levi O. C. Nicklin (18 Jan 1841): "To prove the divinity of the book he assured us that a prophecy, and the description of certain cities in South America were accurately laid down"

A hostile author reports missionary tactics. Levi O. C. Nicklin to Walter Scott (Pittsburgh, 18 January 1841):

To prove the divinity of the book he [John E. Page] assured us that a prophecy, and the description of certain cities in South America were accurately laid down, and that recent discoveries made by Stevens and Catherwood in 1840 confirmed the sayings of the book and together with other discoveries made in Guatemala and elsewhere, were internal evidences of the book to prove beyond doubt its authenticity, and he defied a successful confutation at the hands of any man.[1]


Parley P. Pratt (Feb 1841): "What heart can be so indifferent as not to wish to peruse the record of half a world?"

What heart can be so indifferent as not to wish to peruse the record of half a world? Bringing to light Gods dealings with them, together with their history of the past, and their prophesies of the future.—I repeat the declaration, strange as it may seem, that a knowledge of the things contained in this record is of more value to every one of them than the gold and silver of Europe. (emphasis added)[2]


Benjamin Winchester (1 Mar 1841): "The antiquities of America spread from the great lakes of the North and the West to Central America, and the Southern parts of Peru on the South"

We shall now proceed to prove; first, from various relics of antiquity, that America has been inhabited by an enlightened people, far in advance of the savage state of the red men of the forest....

Now when the antiquarian traverses the Western wilds, he has the privilege to behold the relics of a once enlightened nation, who understood arts and sciences to some extent. He there can walk upon the ruins of once magnificent cities abounding in wealth and prosperity, but now depopulated, and lying in heaps of massive ruins. And if he is onward with his researches—he gazes upon numerous forts, mounds, obelisks, and catacombs, which he marks with wonder and amazement. When he surveys the Southern part of North America—he there can feast his mind upon the works of antiquity until it is absorbed in contemplating the scenes of destructien that have come upon this nation of the dead, and leveled their cities in ruins. In Guatemala he can survey the ruins of a once splendid, beautiful, and populous city, perhaps as ever was on the globe; (we allude to the city of Otolum near Pulenque,) and while wandering through these heaps of massive ruins, he beholds the remains of large temples, and palaces, which exhibit the work of human ingenuity. With a more close observation he discovers a fine display of architectural genius in the construction of these once splendid edifices. In viewing with more avidity still he beholds in these huge buildings the works of science—an immense quantity of hieroglyphics. Hence he no longer doubts but what America was inhabited by an enlightened nation anterior to its discovery by Columbus....

To prove the foregoing statements with regard to American antiquities, we extract the following from different authors. First, Rev. A. Davis in his lecture on the discovery of America by the Northmen says:

“The ruins of a city in Central America are among the most striking of such. This city, called Palenque (the name of a town not far off: other antiquarians call it Otolum) lies two hundred and fifty miles from Tobasco, lat. about 15° N.” “And there were discovered not such buildings as those erected by the Druids, of rough and misshapen stones; but such as those in which kings dwell—built of hewn stones. The appearance of these ruins shows a nation once existed there highly skilled in mechanical arts, and in a state of civilization far beyond any thing that we have been led to believe of the aborigines, previous to the time of Columbus....

How immense this city! It is supposed to have been sixty miles in circumference, and that it contained a population of nearly three millions. Great were its commercial privileges—even now the broad and beautiful Otolum rolls along its desolated borders.”

“One of the principal structures revealed to the eye of the antiquarian is the teaculi or temple. Its style of architecture resembles the Gothic. It is rude, massive and durable. Though resembling the Egyptian edifices, yet this and the other buildings are peculiar, and are different from all others hitherto known. The entrance of the temple is on the east side by a portico more than one hundred feet in length, and nine feet broad. The rectangular pillars of the portico have their architraves adorned with stucco work of shields and other devices.” “The antiquity of this city is manifest not only from its nameless hieroglyphics and other objects; but from the age of some of the trees growing over buildings where once the hum of industry and the voice of merriment were heard. The concentric circles of some of these trees were counted, which showed that they were more than nine hundred years of age.” “The antiquities of America spread from the great lakes of the North and the West to Central America, and the Southern parts of Peru on the South; from the Alleghany Mountains on the East, to the Rocky Mountains on the West, and even from the Pacific to the Atlantic Ocean.”[3]


Walter Scott (1 May 1841): "Having already shown that the Book of Mormon describes the christian religion as being on the Western Continent..."

Walter Scott, hostile author reporting LDS views

Having already shown that the Book of Mormon describes the christian religion as being on the Western Continent, and received there on the testimony of prophecy alone, hundreds of years before the facts occurred of which it consists and consequently that the Book is its own confutation, we come to our second proposition namely: that In affecting to describe a religion in operation at the Isthmus of Darien 600 years before Christ, which it styles the law of Moses....[4]


Times and Seasons (15 Jun 1841): "We feel great pleasure in laying before our readers the following interesting account of the Antiquities of central America"

Times and Seasons: quotes from Catherwood and Stephens' book

"American Antiquities—More Proofs of the Book of Mormon"

We feel great pleasure in laying before our readers the following interesting account of the Antiquities of central America, which have been discovered by two eminent travellers who have spent considerable labor, to bring to light the remains of ancient buildings, architecture &c., which prove beyond controversy that, on this vast continent, once flourished a mighty people, skilled in the arts and sciences, and whose splendor would not be eclipsed by any of the nations of Antiquity a people once high and exalted in the scale of intelligence, but now like their ancient buildings, fallen into ruins.

From the (New York) weekly Herald....[5]


Book of Mormon and the Mormonites (Jul 1841): "The history of the settlements of the emigrants in North and South America"

July 1841: Anonymous hostile author reporting LDS views

The history of the settlements of the emigrants in North and South America contains some romantic and some very puerile incidents; but, passing these by....[6]


Millennial Star (2 Jul 1841): "Canada on the north, Oregon on the West, Mexico on the south, together with all the tribes in central and South America"

2 July 1841: Millennial Star on Amerindians

Their attention has already been called to their ancient records. Some of them have become Latter-Day Saints; it remains for them to be brought to the knowledge of their forefathers as a people, and to know their origin as Israelites, and to receive the fulness of the Gospel, as written in their own records, and obey it.

The power and spirit of God will then rest upon them, and they will constitute a standard, or rallying point, for all the other tribes which are scattered in the vast regions of Canada on the north, Oregon on the West, Mexico on the south, together with all the tribes in central and South America. These all must come into the covenant, and be gathered and consolidated in one great national compact, under the nursing care of the Gentiles,—that highly favoured government, the United States, or that portion of it which by cleaving to the righteous and holy principles of liberty, justice, mercy, and truth, will be preserved from that overthrow which awaits the wicked.

These tribes now consist of more than ten millions of souls, and are scattered over a country of more than seven thousand miles long, and two thousand broad, extending from the frozen and scarcely explored regions of Hudson’s Bay on the north, to the extremity of Cape Horn, or the southern end of South America, and from the Atlantic to the Pacific, east and west.

While these movements are proceeding with such rapidity in regard to the tribes of the Lamanites, the great valley of the Mississippi is beginning to be an asylum for the oppressed, and is rapidly filling up by emigrants from all nations.[7]


Times and Seasons (15 Jul 1841): "I have always thought that there had been a more enlightened people on this continent, than the present Indians"

15 July 1841: Times and Seasons sample dialogue:

Mr. M. I have always thought that there had been a more enlightened people on this continent, than the present Indians. The remains of ancient buildings, monuments &c., are evident proofs on this point.

Mr. R. There can be no doubt on this subject. In the recent researches in Central America, the ruins of very large and splendid buildings have been found, but it does not necessarily follow that the Book of Mormon is true.[8]


Chas. W. Wandell (27 Jul 1841): "in speaking of the writing found on the ruins of the stone city found in Mexico"

I suppose that Proff. Anthon considered that this would be an incontrovertible argument against the Book of Mormon; but let us see: The celebrated antiquarian Proff. Rafinesque says, in speaking of the writing found on the ruins of the stone city found in Mexico, “The glyphs of Otolum are written from top to bottom like the Chinese, or from side to side, indifferntly like the Egyptian and the Demonic Libian. [9]


Christian Advocate and Journal (29 Jul 1841): "This little band, after wandering long and far, came at last to America, and planted themselves in the western part of the present State of New York"

Note that this author gets the Book of Mormon story wrong; his version is obviously distorted by poor attention or second-hand information:

It gives account of a company of Jewish Christians of the tribe of Joseph, who left Judea by Divine direction, a little before the destruction of Jerusalem by Titus, under the guidance of Lehi, their priest and prophet. This little band, after wandering long and far, came at last to America, and planted themselves in the western part of the present State of New York.[10]


Wilford Woodruff (13 Sep 1841): "a flood of testimony in proof of the book of mormon in the discovery & survey of the city Copan"

Wilford Woodruff on John L. Stephens, Incidents of Travel in Central America, Chiapas, and Yucatan:

I felt truly interested in this work for it brought to light a flood of testimony in proof of the book of mormon in the discovery & survey of the city Copan in Central America…[11]


Parley P. Pratt (15 Nov 1841): "with it their prophecies and their testimony of Jesus as the risen Messiah and the Saviour of the world, not of Asia only, but of America also"

A nation whose “bones are dried” and whose ruined temples and monuments have reposed for ages in silent, solmn, and awful grandeur, has now spoken from the dust and revealed to the world their history, and with it their prophecies and their testimony of Jesus as the risen Messiah and the Saviour of the world, not of Asia only, but of America also.[12]

Note Pratt's use of Asia (the Eastern hemisphere) as contrasted with American (the Western hemisphere).


Times and Seasons (15 Nov 1841): "The bible was written by a people upon the Eastern continent, but the Book of Mormon by a people upon this continent"

The bible was written by a people upon the Eastern continent, but the Book of Mormon by a people upon this continent.[13]

These missionaries see "this continent" as the entire Western hemisphere.


Joseph Smith (16 Nov 1841): "I received your kind present...of all histories that have been written pertaining to the antiquities of this country it is the most correct"

John Bernhisel joined the Church in 1837 while practicing medicine in New York City. In 1841 he was ordained bishop of the congregation in New York City. Bernhisel was a well-educated man, and in 1841 read Incidents of Travel in Central America, Chiapas, and Yucatan by John L. Stephens.

Impressed by the book, Bernhisel gave the two-volume work to Wilford Woodruff in September 1841 with instructions to make sure it was given to Joseph Smith. Woodruff, who was on his way back from England to Nauvoo, delivered the book, as requested.

It would appear that Joseph appreciated receiving the book, as he wrote a letter to Bernhisel acknowledging the gift. Dated November 16, 1841, the first paragraph of the letter is as follows:

I received your kind present by the hand of Er Woodruff & feel myself under many obligations for this mark of your esteem & friendship which to me is the more interesting as it unfolds & developes many things that are of great importance to this generation & corresponds with & supports the testimony of the Book of Mormon; I have read the volumes with the greatest interest & pleasure & must say that of all histories that have been written pertaining to the antiquities of this country it is the most correct luminous & comprihensive.[14]


Notes

  1. Levi O. C. Nicklin to Walter Scott (Pittsburgh, 18 January 1841), “Mormonism in Pittsburgh,” The Evangelist (Carthage, Ohio) 10, no. 2 (1 February 1842): 32–34. off-site
  2. Parley P. Pratt, "Book of Mormon," Millennial Star 1 no. 10 (February 1841), 263–264. off-site
  3. Benjamin Winchester, “The Object of a Continuation of Revelation,” The Gospel Reflector (Philadelphia) 1, no. 5 (1 March 1841): 97–120. off-site
  4. Walter Scott, “Mormon Bible–No. IV,” The Evangelist (Carthage, Ohio) 9, no. 5 (1 May 1841): 111–115. off-site
  5. "American Antiquities—More Proofs of the Book of Mormon," Times and Seasons 2 no. 16 (15 June 1841), 440–442. off-site GospeLink off-site
  6. “The Book of Mormon and the Mormonites,” Athenaeum, Museum of Foreign Literature, Science and Art 42 (July 1841): 370–374. off-site
  7. "Present Condition and Prospects of the American Indians, or Lamanites," Millennial Star 2 no. 3 (2 July 1841), 40–42. off-site
  8. "Dialogue on Mormonism No II," Times and Seasons 2 no. 18 (15 July 1841), 472–474. off-site GospeLink off-site
  9. Chas. W. Wandell, "To the Editors of the Times & Seasons, New Rochelle, Westchester County, New York, 27 July 1841," Times and Seasons 2 no. 22 (15 September 1841), 544–45. off-site GospeLink off-site
  10. [Letter on Mormonism, 29 July 1841,] Christian Advocate and Journal (New York) 15, no. 52 (11 August 1841). off-site
  11. Wilford Woodruff, Wilford Woodruff’s Journal, 9 vols., ed., Scott G. Kenny (Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 1985), 2:126 (journal entry dated 13 Sept 1841). ISBN 0941214133.. Underlining in original.
  12. Parley P. Pratt, "“A Letter to the Queen of England," Times and Seasons 3 no. 2 (15 November 1841), 591–596. off-site GospeLink off-site
  13. E. Snow and Benjamin Winchester, "An Address to the Citizens of Salem (Mass.) And Vicinity [concluded]," Times and Seasons 3 no. 1 (15 November 1841), 578–584. off-site GospeLink off-site
  14. Dean C. Jessee, The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith, revised edition, (Salt Lake City, Utah: Deseret Book, 2002), 533.