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|summary=Legends about Quetzalcoatl from Mexico and Central America bring forward tantalizing resemblances to aspects of the life and New World ministry of Jesus Christ. In the past, some leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints occasionally drew attention to certain of those similarities.1 Among those mentioned in post-Spanish conquest manuscripts were that Quetzalcoatl was the Creator, that he was born of a virgin, that he was a god of the air and earth (in his manifestation as the Feathered Serpent), that he was white and bearded, that he came from heaven and was associated with the planet Venus, that he raised the dead, and that he promised to return. The full picture, however, is extremely complex.
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In light of ancient sources and modern studies that have appeared in recent decades, some proposed links between Jesus Christ and Quetzalcoatl remain quite plausible while others are now questionable. This article examines and sets into a helpful context possible links that may derive from, or be related to, the Nephites' knowledge of and teaching about the Savior.
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==Criticism==
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*Critic claim that LDS scholars believe that Quetzalcoatl was Jesus Christ. However, Quetzalcoatl's association with a "feathered serpent" constitutes "snake worship," and is therefore inconsistent with worship of Jesus Christ.
 
  
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Although critics would like to make the LDS association of Quetzalcoatl with Jesus Christ some sort of key element in an effort to "salvage their cherished faith," the reality is that Quetzalcoatl is rarely if ever discussed. The legend of Quetzalcoatl is of interest as a corroborative element in supporting the Book of Mormon, but it is by no means a critical element of anybody's belief. The association is intriguing to the LDS, as even the critics agree that certain elements of the legend are consistent with the Book of Mormon teaching that Jesus Christ appeared in the New World. Wallace E. Hunt Jr. lists the following elements, all drawn from non-LDS sources:
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*Quetzalcoatl was the creator of life.
 
*Quetzalcoatl taught virtue.
 
*Quetzalcoatl was the greatest Lord of all.
 
*Quetzalcoatl had a "long beard and the features of a white man."
 
*The Mesoamericans believed Quetzalcoatl would return.
 
 
 
Critic Richard Abanes claims that the similarities in the comparison of Quetzalcoatl with Jesus Christ are "minor," while continuing on to note that "what LDS apologists tend to not mention are a few additional aspects of Quetzalcoatl, none of which seem very consistent with Jesus Christ."  The following aspects of the Quetzalcoatl legend are those that critics claim that are "deemphasized" by LDS apologists:
 
*Snake worship
 
*Human sacrifice made to Quetzalcoatl
 
*Quetzalcoatl's twin brother Xolotl
 
 
 
===Snake worship associated with Jesus Christ?===
 
Critics claim that since Quetzalcoatl is associated with a "feathered serpent," that this constitutes "snake worship," and could in no way refer to Jesus Christ. In order to examine this claim, one has to look no further than the Bible:
 
 
 
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:6 And the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
 
:7 Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord, and against thee; pray unto the Lord, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people.
 
:8 And the Lord said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.
 
:9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.
 
 
 
This incident foreshadowed the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, and how one had to look to Him in order to be saved. Note that the people were not commanded to ''worship'' the serpent, but rather to simply look at it. Amazingly enough, many did not even have the faith to look upon the serpent and live.
 
 
 
There is no doubt that Mesoamericans worshipped the feathered serpent god Quetzalcoatl, and one could certainly agree that "snake worship" has nothing to do with Jesus Christ. What must be kept in mind is that this represents traditions of a people that apostatized from the teachings of Jesus Christ over a period of many hundreds of years. The real question is where and how the legend of Quetzalcoatl originated.
 
 
 
===Flying serpents?===
 
There is an additional intriguing element which indicates a possible relationship between the Book of Mormon and the "feathered serpent" Quetzalcoatl. When Nephi relates the story of Moses and the brazen serpent, he adds a detail that is ''not present in the Biblical account''. In Nephi's account, he refers to
 
 
 
:41 And he did straiten them in the wilderness with his rod; for they hardened their hearts, even as ye have; and the Lord straitened them because of their iniquity. He sent '''fiery flying serpents''' among them; and after they were bitten he prepared a way that they might be healed; and the labor which they had to perform was to look; and because of the simpleness of the way, or the easiness of it, there were many who perished. {{s|1|Nephi|17|41}} {{ea}}
 
 
 
Nephi refers to "fiery ''flying'' serpents." This brings the Book of Mormon account of this event ''more in line'' with the concept of Quetzalcoatl being a ''feathered'' serpent.{{ref|hunt1}} It is also interesting to note that Joseph Smith would not have gleaned this detail from a reading of the same story from the Bible.
 
 
 
===Have LDS apologists deemphasized aspects of Quetzalcoatl which are inconsistent with Jesus Christ?===
 
 
 
So, have "LDS apologists" (meaning, in this case, any LDS scholar) ignored or deemphasized aspects of the Quetzalcoatl legend?
 
 
 
Those (e.g., Milton R. Hunter) who have seen Quetzalcoatl as evidence for Christ's visit to the Americas generally saw the Quetzalcoatl legend as an apostate remnant of the truth.  Thus, they saw some parallels which they felt applied to Jesus, while recognizing that fifteen hundred years of apostasy and corruption led to other elements being "grafted on" or altered.
 
 
 
While a legitimate perspective, this approach has the disadvantage of seeing parallels and ignoring contradictory aspects.
 
 
 
==A closer look at Quetzalcoatl==
 
 
 
Despite the enthusiasm of some earlier researchers, the Quetzalcoatl = Christ link has substantial problems.
 
 
 
Chief among these is the fact that most writers have not used the original sources of the Quetzalcoatl myths, but have relied on secondary sources&mdash;these sources often came via the Spanish, who likewise had an interest in seeing Christian parallels with native Amerindian myths.
 
 
 
When the original sources are studied, it becomes clear that the Christian parallels to Quetzalcoatl are not as significant as some authors have previously thought.
 
 
 
For extensive discussion, see:
 
 
 
*{{Sunstone|author=Brant Gardner|article=The Christianization of Quetzalcoatl: A History of the Metamorphosis|start=6|end=10|date=1986|num=11|vol=10}} {{pdflink|url=https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/file-index/7.html}}
 
* Brant Gardner, "Quetzalcoatl: Papers," {{link|url=http://frontpage2000.nmia.com/~nahualli/Quetzalcoatl.htm}}
 
* Blair Dee Hodges, "Method and Skepticism (and Quetzalcoatl....)," ''lifeongoldplates.com'' (29 September 2008) {{link|url=http://www.lifeongoldplates.com/2008/09/method-and-skepticism-and-quetzalcoatl.html}}
 
*{{FR-19-1-4}}
 
* Gardner, ''FARMS Review'' 20/1 {{nw}}
 
 
 
==Conclusion==
 
 
 
Some LDS authors have seen Christian parallels to Quetzalcoatl.  At least some of these parallels were probably imposed, however, by the secondary sources who also sought a Christian connection to native myth.  Quetzalcoatl plays a minor&mdash;if any&mdash;role in modern LDS apologetics.  Critics should not, however, act as if the association of a "snake" with Christ is completely foreign or strange&mdash;certainly the brass serpent placed on a pole and raised up by Moses has some symbolic links to Jesus.
 
 
 
Whether Quetzalcoatl can tell us anything about the Book of Mormon, however, remains unproven.  FAIR does not at present recommend relying on this as "evidence" for the truth of the Book of Mormon account.
 
 
 
==Endnotes==
 
 
 
#{{note|hunt1}}{{JBMS-2-2-9}} <!-- Hunt -->
 
 
 
==Further reading==
 
 
 
===FAIR wiki articles===
 
 
 
 
 
===FAIR web site===
 
*{{tg|url=http://www.fairlds.org/apol/ai265.html|topic=Quetzalcoatl}}
 
 
 
===External links===
 
*Joseph Allen, [http://www.meridianmagazine.com/articles/030926white.html "The White god Quetzalcoatl,"] ''Meridian Magazine'', 2003.
 
*Brant Gardner, [http://frontpage2000.nmia.com/~nahualli/Quetzalcoatl.htm Quetzalcoatl: Papers]
 
*{{JBMS-2-2-9}} <!-- Hunt -->
 
*Jeff Lindsay, [http://www.jefflindsay.com/bme9.shtml Overlooking the Obvious? Legends of Quetzalcoatl and Ties to the Book of Mormon]
 
*John L. Sorenson, [http://farms.byu.edu/publications/bookschapter.php?bookid=61&chapid=683 "The Decline of the God Quetzalcoatl"] from ''Pressing Forward with the Book of Mormon'', pp. 234-236
 
*{{JBMS-11-1-5}} <!--Wirth-->
 
*{{FR-12-1-4}} <!-- Wirth -->
 
 
 
===Printed material===
 
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The potential relationship between Quetzalcoatl and Jesus Christ


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Question: Do Latter-day Saints believe that Quetzalcoatl was actually Jesus Christ?

Whether Quetzalcoatl can tell us anything about the Book of Mormon remains unproven

It is claimed that LDS scholars believe that Quetzalcoatl was Jesus Christ. However, since Quetzalcoatl's association with a "feathered serpent" constitutes "snake worship," some Christians claim that this association is therefore inconsistent with worship of Jesus Christ.

Some LDS authors have seen Christian parallels to Quetzalcoatl. At least some of these parallels were probably imposed, however, by the secondary sources who also sought a Christian connection to native myth. Quetzalcoatl plays a minor—if any—role in modern LDS apologetics. Critics should not, however, act as if the association of a "snake" with Christ is completely foreign or strange—certainly the brass serpent placed on a pole and raised up by Moses has some symbolic links to Jesus.

Whether Quetzalcoatl can tell us anything about the Book of Mormon, however, remains unproven. FairMormon does not at present recommend relying on this as "evidence" for the truth of the Book of Mormon account.

The legend of Quetzalcoatl is of interest as a corroborative element in supporting the Book of Mormon, but it is not an element of anybody's belief

Although critics would like to make the LDS association of Quetzalcoatl with Jesus Christ some sort of key element in an effort to "salvage their cherished faith," the reality is that Quetzalcoatl is rarely if ever discussed. The legend of Quetzalcoatl is of interest as a corroborative element in supporting the Book of Mormon, but it is by no means a critical element of anybody's belief. The association is intriguing to the LDS, as even the critics agree that certain elements of the legend are consistent with the Book of Mormon teaching that Jesus Christ appeared in the New World. Wallace E. Hunt Jr. lists the following elements, all drawn from non-LDS sources:

  • Quetzalcoatl was the creator of life.
  • Quetzalcoatl taught virtue.
  • Quetzalcoatl was the greatest Lord of all.
  • Quetzalcoatl had a "long beard and the features of a white man."
  • The Mesoamericans believed Quetzalcoatl would return.


Question: Have Mormon apologists ignored aspects of Quetzalcoatl which are inconsistent with Jesus Christ?

Those who have seen Quetzalcoatl as evidence for Christ's visit to the Americas generally saw the Quetzalcoatl legend as an apostate remnant of the truth

Critic Richard Abanes claims that the similarities in the comparison of Quetzalcoatl with Jesus Christ are "minor," while continuing on to note that "what LDS apologists tend to not mention are a few additional aspects of Quetzalcoatl, none of which seem very consistent with Jesus Christ." The following aspects of the Quetzalcoatl legend are those that some claim that are "deemphasized" by LDS apologists:

  • Snake worship
  • Human sacrifice made to Quetzalcoatl
  • Quetzalcoatl's twin brother Xolotl

Have "LDS apologists" (meaning, in this case, any LDS scholar) ignored or deemphasized aspects of the Quetzalcoatl legend?

Those (e.g., Milton R. Hunter) who have seen Quetzalcoatl as evidence for Christ's visit to the Americas generally saw the Quetzalcoatl legend as an apostate remnant of the truth. Thus, they saw some parallels which they felt applied to Jesus, while recognizing that fifteen hundred years of apostasy and corruption led to other elements being "grafted on" or altered.

While a legitimate perspective, this approach has the disadvantage of seeing parallels and ignoring contradictory aspects.


Question: What are the problems of trying to associate Quetzalcoatl with Jesus Christ?

Despite the enthusiasm of some earlier researchers, the Quetzalcoatl as Christ link has substantial problems

Chief among these is the fact that most writers have not used the original sources of the Quetzalcoatl myths, but have relied on secondary sources—these sources often came via the Spanish, who likewise had an interest in seeing Christian parallels with native Amerindian myths.

When the original sources are studied, it becomes clear that the Christian parallels to Quetzalcoatl are not as significant as some authors have previously thought.

Diane E. Wirth, "Quetzalcoatl, the Maya Maize God, and Jesus Christ"

Diane E. Wirth,  Journal of Book of Mormon Studies, (2002)
Legends about Quetzalcoatl from Mexico and Central America bring forward tantalizing resemblances to aspects of the life and New World ministry of Jesus Christ. In the past, some leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints occasionally drew attention to certain of those similarities.1 Among those mentioned in post-Spanish conquest manuscripts were that Quetzalcoatl was the Creator, that he was born of a virgin, that he was a god of the air and earth (in his manifestation as the Feathered Serpent), that he was white and bearded, that he came from heaven and was associated with the planet Venus, that he raised the dead, and that he promised to return. The full picture, however, is extremely complex.


In light of ancient sources and modern studies that have appeared in recent decades, some proposed links between Jesus Christ and Quetzalcoatl remain quite plausible while others are now questionable. This article examines and sets into a helpful context possible links that may derive from, or be related to, the Nephites' knowledge of and teaching about the Savior.

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Learn more about claims about Quetzalcoatl and the Book of Mormon
Online
  • Brant Gardner, "Where Much Is Promised, Less Is Given, A review of Decoding Ancient America: A Guide to the Archaeology of the Book of Mormon by Diane E. Wirth," FARMS Review 20/1 (2008): 15–32. off-site wiki
  • Jeff Lindsay, Overlooking the Obvious? Legends of Quetzalcoatl and Ties to the Book of Mormon
  • John L. Sorenson, "The Decline of the God Quetzalcoatl" from Pressing Forward with the Book of Mormon, pp. 234-236
  • Diane E. Wirth, "'Quetzalcoatl, the Maya Maize God, and Jesus Christ'," Journal of Book of Mormon Studies 11/1 (2002). [4–15] link
  • Diane E. Wirth, "'The Bearded, White God Is Everywhere—or Is He? (Review of Fair Gods and Feathered Serpents: A Search for the Early Americas' Bearded White God)'," FARMS Review 12/1 (2000). [9–22] link
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