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Latter-day Saints do not wish to be confused with "other Christian denominations." But, they strongly object to being told that they are not Christian at all. | Latter-day Saints do not wish to be confused with "other Christian denominations." But, they strongly object to being told that they are not Christian at all. | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Question: Luther never denied the deity of Christ, thus allowing him to be a Christian.}} | ||
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+ | Joseph Smith and Latter-day Saints do not deny the deity of Christ either—they insist upon it. We agree that neither Luther or Latter-day Saints should be considered non-Christians. | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Question: The classification of Christian that secularists have given you is representative of the advertising you have put out.}} | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Question: A comment: I may not agree with your doctrine, but I think those who worship Christ should support one another. United we stand, divided we fall.}} | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Question: You are presenting many different ideas or groups who claim Christianity, but all do not hold to the same truth. So, who is right? There can be only one truth. All others are false. }} | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Question: I find the term "Christian" to be vague by your definition. What should be shown is whether or not the LDS Church adheres to the Bible and if LDS doctrine is in sync with biblical teachings. Which book is superior?}} | ||
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{{QandA|Question: What must a Mormon do to attain eternal life forever with God?}} | {{QandA|Question: What must a Mormon do to attain eternal life forever with God?}} | ||
− | Eternal life is a gift from God. He promises us this gift if we enter into | + | Eternal life is a gift from God. He promises us this gift if we enter into and keep a covenant with Christ. This covenant is made through faith in Christ, repentance, baptism, receipt of the Holy Ghost, and enduring to the end. As part of the covenant, members promise to serve God and Christ and to walk in newness of life through the grace of God. |
{{QandA|Explain the works part of your ministry? Is this mandatory, and why?}} | {{QandA|Explain the works part of your ministry? Is this mandatory, and why?}} | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Question: Are Mormons born again?}} | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Question: The Bible clearly states that the New Testament brings GRACE by the bloodshed of Jesus Christ. The two new commandments are 1) love your Lord your God with all your heart, and 2) love your neighbor as you would love yourself. So, because you believe in works, why did Christ have to die on the cross for our sins if you can work for your own salvation? Hebrews 10:12.}} | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Question: In Ephesians 2:8-9 it says that we have been saved through grace by faith, not of works, so no man can boast. But compared to 2 Nephi 25:23 it says that "we are saved after all we can do." Why is this verse saying that we must work to attain eternal life when Ephesians says otherwise?}} | ||
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{{QandA|Question: In Mormonism, is it believed that Jesus is God’s only Son? Because it has been stated that all people are literal spirit children of God, yet in {{s||John|3|16}} it states that “God sent His only son...."}} | {{QandA|Question: In Mormonism, is it believed that Jesus is God’s only Son? Because it has been stated that all people are literal spirit children of God, yet in {{s||John|3|16}} it states that “God sent His only son...."}} | ||
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This question turns on the question of how language is used. In one sense, there is only one God. In another sense, there are three beings to whom the title "God" is rightly applied: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. Thus, in one sense the answer is, "No," because these personages together make up "one God." In another sense, the answer is "Yes." One must first be clear about which sense one means before answering the question. And, in answering the question, one must realize that the other sense is not suddenly false. | This question turns on the question of how language is used. In one sense, there is only one God. In another sense, there are three beings to whom the title "God" is rightly applied: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. Thus, in one sense the answer is, "No," because these personages together make up "one God." In another sense, the answer is "Yes." One must first be clear about which sense one means before answering the question. And, in answering the question, one must realize that the other sense is not suddenly false. | ||
− | All Christian groups must grapple with this issue. Much of Christianity settled on the Nicene creed as a solution. The Latter-day Saints reject that solution as | + | All Christian groups must grapple with this issue. Much of Christianity settled on the Nicene creed as a solution. The Latter-day Saints reject that solution as extra-biblical. |
'''''To learn more''''': | '''''To learn more''''': | ||
− | * [[ | + | * [[Godhead and the Trinity|Godhead and the trinity]] |
{{QandA|Question: Isaiah 44:6, 8 says: “I am the first and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.” “Is there a god beside me? Yes, there is no god; I know not any.” The LDS Church does not believe God is the first or the last and believes there are a host of other gods. How do you answer scripture on this point?}} | {{QandA|Question: Isaiah 44:6, 8 says: “I am the first and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.” “Is there a god beside me? Yes, there is no god; I know not any.” The LDS Church does not believe God is the first or the last and believes there are a host of other gods. How do you answer scripture on this point?}} | ||
{{QandA|Question: Teachings of Joseph Smith, p. 370 --- Joseph Smith teaches multiple gods. Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, pp. 576-577 --- “As each of these persons is a God, it is evident from this standpoint alone that a plurality of Gods exists.” How does this compare with Isaiah 44:6-8, Psalms 90:2, Isaiah 43:10?}} | {{QandA|Question: Teachings of Joseph Smith, p. 370 --- Joseph Smith teaches multiple gods. Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, pp. 576-577 --- “As each of these persons is a God, it is evident from this standpoint alone that a plurality of Gods exists.” How does this compare with Isaiah 44:6-8, Psalms 90:2, Isaiah 43:10?}} | ||
{{QandA|Question: In the King Follett discourse, Joseph Smith said, “You have got to learn to become gods yourselves, the same as all gods have done before you.” How does this work with clear verses like Isaiah 43:10 (Please read aloud . . .)}} | {{QandA|Question: In the King Follett discourse, Joseph Smith said, “You have got to learn to become gods yourselves, the same as all gods have done before you.” How does this work with clear verses like Isaiah 43:10 (Please read aloud . . .)}} | ||
{{QandA|Question: How do you explain these two verses? Isaiah 43:10-11 (lists passage)}} | {{QandA|Question: How do you explain these two verses? Isaiah 43:10-11 (lists passage)}} | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Question: I believe Jesus and God are the same in substance. How can this Jesus be the same as the Mormon Jesus? My Jesus is God, yours is not.}} | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Question: In light of the fact that the early Church Fathers all believed that God was agenetos (uncreated), how do you justify your attempt to correlate their doctrine of theosis with the LDS belief that God was a man who progressed to become a god?}} | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Question: How do you justify believing in Christ while denying his deity? Jesus says, "I and my Father are one. No one comes to the Father but by me." Mormonism says , "Jesus is the Son of God, but not God. Jesus is Satan’s brother, God’s spirit child. These two beliefs cannot be found in the Bible (untouched by Mormons), and so are heretical, discounting the truth of the Christ Mormons believe in.}} | ||
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{{DVDHeadingBox|''Theosis'' or Humans Becoming Like God}} | {{DVDHeadingBox|''Theosis'' or Humans Becoming Like God}} | ||
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'''''To learn more:'''' | '''''To learn more:'''' | ||
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− | {{QandA|Question: In {{s|| | + | {{QandA|Question: In {{s||D&C|132|37}}, it says we have the ability to become gods. Is that Christian? Nowhere in the Bible does it state that we can become gods. If so, where?}} |
* Said Jesus, "To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne" ({{b||Revelation|3|21}}). | * Said Jesus, "To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne" ({{b||Revelation|3|21}}). | ||
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{{SeeAlso|Deification_of_man#Scriptures|l1=Other Bible verses on human deification}} | {{SeeAlso|Deification_of_man#Scriptures|l1=Other Bible verses on human deification}} | ||
− | This belief | + | This belief, although contrary to the views of some conservative Protestants, is entirely Christian. Many early Christian writers and thinkers discussed it: |
− | * Irenaeus: "We were not made gods at our beginning, but first we were made men, then, in the end, gods." {{ | + | * Irenaeus: "We were not made gods at our beginning, but first we were made men, then, in the end, gods."<ref>{{ECF1|start=94}}</ref> |
− | * Clement of Alexandria: "yea, I say, the Word of God became a man so that you might learn from a man how to become a god." | + | * Clement of Alexandria: "yea, I say, the Word of God became a man so that you might learn from a man how to become a god."<ref>Clement of Alexandria, ''The Instructor'', 3.1 see also Clement, ''Stromateis'', 23.</ref> |
− | * Justin Martyr: "[By Psalm 82] it is demonstrated that all men are deemed worthy of becoming “gods,” and even of having power to become sons of the Highest." | + | * Justin Martyr: "[By Psalm 82] it is demonstrated that all men are deemed worthy of becoming “gods,” and even of having power to become sons of the Highest."<ref>Justin Martyr, ''Dialogue with Trypho'', 124.</ref> |
There are many others. | There are many others. | ||
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The only being who cannot be mistaken is God. Thus, only God may confirm or correct our best conclusions. The Bible insists: "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God" ({{b||James|1|4}}). Latter-day Saints encourage all who hear their message to study it and come to their best conclusion, and then to ask God in the name of his Son if the message is true. | The only being who cannot be mistaken is God. Thus, only God may confirm or correct our best conclusions. The Bible insists: "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God" ({{b||James|1|4}}). Latter-day Saints encourage all who hear their message to study it and come to their best conclusion, and then to ask God in the name of his Son if the message is true. | ||
− | {{QandA|{{b|2|Timothy|3|16}} and {{b||John|17|17}} establish the truth of God’s word. Is the Bible, the word of God, still true if I am not so convinced by a feeling or spiritual experience? {{b||John|14|6}} --- Jesus stated that He is the Truth.}} | + | {{QandA|Question: {{b|2|Timothy|3|16}} and {{b||John|17|17}} establish the truth of God’s word. Is the Bible, the word of God, still true if I am not so convinced by a feeling or spiritual experience? {{b||John|14|6}} --- Jesus stated that He is the Truth.}} |
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+ | Something remains true regardless of what we believe, feel, or experience about it. But, why ought we conclude that the Bible is true? What would we say to the Muslim or Hindu equally convinced that their book is true? One cannot appeal to the Bible's claims that it is true as evidence—after all the Qu'ran and the Book of Mormon also claim to be true. | ||
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+ | Critics on this point must realize that only something from ''outside'' a holy book or religious teaching can prove the truth or falsity of the book or teaching. And, Latter-day Saints believe the only reliable source is God—not fallible humans' interpretations of a book, however holy or inspired. | ||
− | + | {{QandA|Question: Can we trust our hearts through the Holy Spirit’s revelation through the burning of the bosom? The Bible says that our hearts are the most deceitful of all things (Jeremiah 17:9). How do we know real truth? }} | |
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{{QandA|Are the Bible & Book of Mormon equally important for LDS?}} | {{QandA|Are the Bible & Book of Mormon equally important for LDS?}} | ||
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Only God is without error and infallible—he is able to do his own work, and teach truth from any source in which it is to be found. | Only God is without error and infallible—he is able to do his own work, and teach truth from any source in which it is to be found. | ||
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+ | {{QandA|If the Bible is not believed to be inerrant, how do you determine what to believe and not to believe? Is the Book of Mormon believed to be inerrant?}} | ||
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+ | See above for the first part of this question. For the second part: no, the Book of Mormon expressly says that it is ''not'' inerrant. Because Latter-day Saints use scripture as a step to receiving direct revelation, and not the final step in their process of determining truth, they do not require infallible prophets or infallible books. They need only trust in the Spirit of the infallible God. | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Question: With all the civilizations and battles in NA & SA, where is the archeological evidence of these civilizations and battles?}} | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Question: The story of the Mormon church is that Hebrew tribes came and settled in North and South America. And these were the Native Americans. Yet, DNA evidence shows Native Americans are from the Asian background, not Jewish.}} | ||
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+ | The Book of Mormon speaks only of two or three small groups from the Middle East that settled somewhere in the Americas. It does not require that these be the only peoples before, during, or after Book of Mormon times. Church writers and leaders have been saying this for over a century. | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Question: Comparing the Book of Mormon with the Holy Bible: how do you explain that every landmark and war battle referenced in the Bible can be historically proven using other historical documents, while the wars/battles and landmarks referenced in the Book of Mormon cannot? There are no archaeological evidence or historical references besides Mormon documents.}} | ||
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+ | In the first place, this claim is false. There are many Biblical sites which have yet to be identified archaeologically, and many sites that are disputed. | ||
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+ | In the second place, the world of the Bible enjoys several advantages over the New World setting for the Book of Mormon: | ||
+ | * the cities in the Bible have been continually inhabited from the time of the Bible to the present. By contrast, much of the New World has not even been explored or excavated by archaeology. | ||
+ | * the languages spoken at the time of the Bible are closely related to the languages now spoken in the area, and these languages are well-understood by scholarship. By contrast, there is ''no'' pre-Columbian settlement in the New World for which we know the pre-Columbian name. Even if we had a Nephite city, how would we know when we have only (say) a Spanish name for it? | ||
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+ | A final mistake in this question presumes that a historical site somehow "proves" that the Bible is true. It does not. The site of the city of Troy has been found, but this does not "prove" that the Greek gods of the ''Iliad'' are true gods, or that it's account is accurate. | ||
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+ | * [[Archeology and the Bible|The Bible and archaeology]] | ||
+ | * [[Book of Mormon archaeology|Book of Mormon and archaeology]] | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Question: The Bible references cities that are still standing and backed by maps today. Why can’t the same be said for the Book of Mormon?}} | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Question: What historical concrete evidence exists to prove the basis of plates or any other Mormon beliefs? Why has land never been excavated?}} | ||
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{{QandA|Who is your living prophet?}} | {{QandA|Who is your living prophet?}} | ||
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In a different sense, all Latter-day Saints aspire to be "prophets," since "the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy" ({{b||Revelation|19|10}}). Like Moses we "would God that all the LORD's people were prophets, and that the LORD would put his spirit upon them!" ({{b||Numbers|11|29}}). | In a different sense, all Latter-day Saints aspire to be "prophets," since "the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy" ({{b||Revelation|19|10}}). Like Moses we "would God that all the LORD's people were prophets, and that the LORD would put his spirit upon them!" ({{b||Numbers|11|29}}). | ||
{{QandA|Question: Do you believe there are people who follow a false Christ? How would you define what a false Christ is?}} | {{QandA|Question: Do you believe there are people who follow a false Christ? How would you define what a false Christ is?}} | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Question: Genesis clearly states that God created the earth, the stars, the skies, and everything in it. A man with a lifetime of education who doesn’t know the Lord is a fool.}} | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Brigham Young stated, "The Christian God is the Mormon’s devil." Do you (the LDS Church) still believe that statement, or was Brigham Young a false prophet?}} | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Does the Mormon church teach that God had a physical union with Mary to conceive Jesus?}} | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Did you say you bless the bread and the water(?) in your ordinance?}} | ||
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+ | {{QandA|Did Brigham Young teach the Adam-God doctrine?}} | ||
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+ | {{QandA|The question about the use of the title "Christian" is not an important one. More importantly, why does the LDS Church continue to hold Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, Erastus Snow, etc. as prophets when countless prophecies that they have made have been proven false?}} | ||
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