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''I admit that it would be nice to have a non-Mormon ally at Mormon articles,''<br>
 
''but I long ago promised not to create sock puppets or attempt to recruit others to support my views.''<br>
 
''That's a promise I've kept and intend to keep.''<br>
 
--John Foxe (6 December 2007) {{link|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Foxe&diff=176231278&oldid=176219280}}
 
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The following table compares three individuals: two are imaginary, and one is real. You may draw your own conclusions.
 
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!width="33%"|"John Foxe"
 
!width="33%"|"Hi540"
 
!width="30%"|"Real world" BJU professor
 
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*As an amateur, plays the viola and recorder. {{ref|foxe.viola}}
 
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*As an amateur, plays the viola and recorder. {{ref|matzko.viola}}
 
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*Teaches history at Bob Jones University. {{ref|foxe.history}}
 
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*Teaches history at Bob Jones University. {{ref|matzko.history}}
 
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*Defines the word "Historiography." {{ref|foxe.historiography}}
 
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*Teaches a class called "Historiography." {{ref|matzko.historiography}}
 
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*Submitted article to ''BYU Studies'', which was rejected and then published in another journal. {{ref|foxe.published}}
 
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*Published article in ''Dialogue''. {{ref|matzko.published}}
 
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*Speaks French {{ref|foxe.french}}
 
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*Speaks French {{ref|hi540.french}}
 
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*Either graduated from or has family members working at BJU. {{ref|foxe.bjugrad}}
 
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*Attended BJU. Currently affiliated with BJU. {{ref|hi540.bjugrad}}
 
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*Graduated from BJU. Wife teaches English at BJU. {{ref|matzko.bjugrad}}
 
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*BJU faculty member. {{ref|hi540.bjufaculty}}
 
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*BJU faculty member. {{ref|matzko.bjufaculty}}
 
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*Graduated from the University of Virginia. {{ref|hi540.virginia}}
 
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*Graduated from the University of Virginia. {{ref|matzko.virginia}}
 
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*Served in the military during the time period required to receive the "National Defense Service Medal". {{ref|hi540.military}}
 
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*Served in the military during the time period required to receive the "National Defense Service Medal". {{ref|matzko.military}}
 
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*Married {{ref|foxe.married}}
 
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*Married {{ref|matzko.married}}
 
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*Prior to marriage he and his wife attended different churches. {{ref|foxe.wifechurch}}
 
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*Prior to marriage he and his wife attended different churches. {{ref|matzko.wifechurch}}
 
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*Parents immigrated from Europe. {{ref|foxe.immigrant}}
 
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*Parents immigrated from Europe. {{ref|matzko.immigrant}}
 
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*Has ownership of a specific photograph that is uploaded both on the web and on on Wikicommons. {{ref|hi540.photo}}
 
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*Has ownership of a specific photograph that is uploaded both on the web and on on Wikicommons. {{ref|matzko.photo}}
 
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*Has an "unusual" last name. {{ref|foxe.surname}}
 
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*Has an unusual last name.
 
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*Uses the terms "stylistic" and "substantive" to describe his edits.
 
*"calling a spade a spade" in the edit summary. {{link|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emma_Smith&diff=prev&oldid=114175866}}
 
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*"calling a spade a spade" in the edit summary.
 
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*Uses the terms "stylistic" and "substantive" to describe his edits.
 
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*Considers the BJU art gallery to have "considerable respect" among art historians. (April 24, 2006) {{ref|foxe.art}}
 
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*Added information about the BJU art collection to the Wikitravel entry for Greenville (South Carolina) {{ref|hi540.art}}
 
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*Responded to an article that suggested biased editing on the BJU Wikipedia page. The subject was the addition of information about the BJU art collection. {{ref|matzko.art}}
 
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*"John Foxe" welcomed John Matzko's son Austin to Wikpedia. {{ref|foxe.austin}}
 
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*Has met Richard L. Bushman. {{ref|foxe.bushman}}
 
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*Has met Richard L. Bushman. {{ref|matzko.bushman}}
 
 
 
 
 
#{{note|matzko.viola}} Matzko Music: "John is an amateur musician who has enjoyed playing the violin, viola, and recorder in campus, church, and community groups." {{link|url=http://www.matzkoscottage.com/about/}}
 
{{link|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bob_Jones_University/Archive_0004#Charles_D._Provan}}
 
#{{note|matzko.history}} Matzko History: "John teaches history at Bob Jones University" {{link|url=http://www.matzkoscottage.com/about/}}
 
{{link|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mormonism_and_history#Merge_with_Mormon_apologetics?}}
 
#{{note|matzko.historiography}}
 
#{{note|matzko.published}}
 
 
 
 
 
#{{note|matzko.bjugrad}} Dr. Matzko "eventually earned degrees from Bob Jones University, the University of Cincinnati and the University of Virginia." {{link|url=http://www.matzkoscottage.com/about/}}
 
 
 
#{{note|matzko.bjufaculty}} "John [Matzko] teaches history at Bob Jones University, Greenville, South Carolina." {{link|url=http://www.matzkoscottage.com/about/}}
 
 
 
#{{note|matzko.virginia}} Matzko Virginia: Dr. Matzko "eventually earned degrees from Bob Jones University, the University of Cincinnati and the University of Virginia." {{link|url=http://www.matzkoscottage.com/about/}}
 
 
 
#{{note|matzko.military}} Matzko Military: "In 1969, John was drafted into the U.S. Army and served eighteen months in the Honor Guard, including a tour of duty as a sentinel at the Tomb of the Unknowns in Arlington National Cemetery." Serving during this period would qualify Dr. Matzko to receive the "National Defense Service Medal." {{link|url=http://www.matzkoscottage.com/about/}}
 
#{{note|matzko.married}} Matzko Married: Dr. Matzko is married. {{link|url=http://www.matzkoscottage.com/about/}}
 
#{{note|matzko.wifechurch}} "John became a Christian as a child while attending the Bible Presbyterian Church of Collingswood...[his wife] became a charter member of North Love Baptist Church." {{link|url=http://www.matzkoscottage.com/about/}}
 
#{{note|hi540.photo}} Hi540 Photo: Editor “Hi540” posted a picture of Lake Santeetlah to Wikimedia Commons on May 18, 2008. {{link|url=http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:LakeSanteetlah(lake).jpg}} The source is “own work” and the copyright holder is John Matzko.
 
#{{note|matzko.photo}} Foxe Photo: The photo uploaded to Wikicommons happens to be the same photo that Dr. Matzko displays on his web page. {{link|url=http://www.matzkoscottage.com/}}
 
 
 
#{{note|foxe.art}} Response to Previous Art Gallery post. Do some research about the BJU M&G; not only can I personally attest to the validity of that statement (having toured the Gallery on an occasion), but there is considerable respect online among art historians. There are paintings by very famous masters such as Veronese, Titian, Tintoretto, Benjamin West, and many more. I would not say that such a statement is "blatantly false.” John Foxe 13:08, 24 April 2006 (UTC) {{link|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bob_Jones_University&diff=prev&oldid=49914298#Art_Gallery}}
 
#{{note|hi540.art}}26 November 2007 Hi540 added the following (incomplete) entry to the Wikitravel page “Greenville (South Carolina)” "Bob Jones University Museum and Gallery, 1700 Wade Hampton Blvd., [5]. Tu-Sunday, 2-5. Closed Monday. A thorough presentation of European Old Masters from the fourteenth through the nineteenth centuries including one of the finest collections of Italian Baroque painting in the United States. Includes religious art by Rubens, van Dyck, Reni, Tintoretto, Le Brun, Cranach, Ribera, and Murillo set among period furniture, sculpture, tapestries, and porcelains. Adults $5, Seniors $4, Students $3. Immerse yourself in the relaxing," {{link|url=http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Greenville_(South_Carolina)&diff=prev&oldid=710764}}
 
#{{note|matzko.art}}August 14, 2007. "Tracking Wikipedia's Not-So-Neutral Editors." Web surfers can watch as an editor from Bob Jones University calls the campus museum “the great collection of religious art in the Western Hemisphere.” Comment #2: "The Bob Jones University Museum and Gallery may not “the great collection of religious art in the Western Hemisphere,” but there are few that surpass it in either quality or size. Sounds outrageous. It just happens to be true." — John Matzko    Aug 16, 05:48 PM   
 
#{{note|foxe.austin}} (11 March 2009) {{link|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Austin_Matzko&diff=prev&oldid=276584777}}
 
 
 
#{{note|matzko.bushman}} John Matzko took a photo of Richard L. Bushman at a conference they attended. {{link|url=http://nn.byu.edu/story.cfm/66195}}
 
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