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#REDIRECT [[Question: Why did Joseph describe the United Order in revelation as "everlasting" and "immutable and unchangeable" until Jesus comes?]]
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==Criticism==
 
Critics claim that Joseph gave a false prophecy when he described the United Order in revelation as "everlasting," "immutable and unchangeable," "until I [Jesus] come."
 
 
 
===Source(s) of the criticism===
 
*{{CriticalWork:Abanes:One Nation|pages=462, 617 n. 14}}
 
 
 
==Response==
 
 
 
The relevant scripture reads (color emphasis added for clarity):
 
 
 
:1 Verily I say unto you, my friends, I give unto you counsel, and a commandment, concerning all the properties which belong to the order which I commanded to be organized and established, to be a united order, and <font color="red">an everlasting order</font> for the benefit of my church, and for the salvation of men until I come—
 
:2 <font color="blue">With promise immutable and unchangeable, that inasmuch as those whom I commanded were faithful they should be blessed with a multiplicity of blessings;</font>
 
:3 But inasmuch as they were not faithful they were nigh unto cursing.
 
:4 Therefore, inasmuch as some of my servants have not kept the commandment, but have broken the covenant through covetousness, and with feigned words, I have cursed them with a very sore and grievous curse.
 
:5 For I, the Lord, have decreed in my heart, that inasmuch as any man belonging to the order shall be found a transgressor, or, in other words, shall break the covenant with which ye are bound, he shall be cursed in his life, and shall be trodden down by whom I will;
 
:6 For I, the Lord, am not to be mocked in these things—({{s||DC|104|1-6}})
 
 
 
Several points need to be made:
 
 
 
* the practice of the Order is not prophesied to be "<font color="blue">immutable and unchangeable</font>."  Rather, the Lord says that the ''promise'' is "immutable and unchangeable"&mdash;and, that promise is that "inasmuch as those whom I commanded were faithful, they should be blessed with a multiplicity of blessings.
 
* the United Order is to be <font color="red">everlasting</font>&mdash;that is, it is always the Lord's highest law.  Temple-worthy Latter-day Saints promise to observe the law of consecration.  They are not, at present, commanded to enter the United Order, but covenant to do so if asked.
 
* the Lord makes it clear (verses 3-6) that some might break the covenant, and suffer the penalty.  Thus, failure to live the law is not failure of a prophecy, but failure to live a commandment.
 
 
 
==Biblical parallels==
 
 
 
There are other
 
 
 
==Conclusion==
 
 
 
 
 
==Endnotes==
 
 
 
 
 
==Further reading==
 
===FAIR wiki articles===
 
{{ProphecyWiki}}
 
===FAIR web site===
 
{{ProphecyFAIR}}
 
===External links===
 
{{ProphecyLinks}}
 
===Printed material===
 
{{ProphecyPrint}}
 

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