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| + | |L1=Response to claim: 325 - The author points out that after Joseph's death, Rhoda Richards was sealed to "her cousin Brigham Young" | ||
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| + | ==Response to claim: 325 - The author points out that after Joseph's death, Rhoda Richards was sealed to "her cousin Brigham Young"== | ||
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| + | {{propaganda|Here the author again relies on presentism to provide a hostile interpretive lens. It was not unusual for first cousins to marry. Nineteen of the present-day states permit unrestricted marriage between first cousins, and most countries have no restrictions at all on marriage between cousins. In its exploitation of the presentist fallacy, the author’s remark is utterly irrelevant in its historical context. | ||
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Latest revision as of 13:14, 13 April 2024
Response to claims made in "Chapter 5"
| Chapter 4 | A FAIR Analysis of: Nauvoo Polygamy: "... but we called it celestial marriage", a work by author: George D. Smith
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Chapter 6 |
Response to claims made in Nauvoo Polygamy, "Chapter 5"
Jump to details:
- Response to claim: 325 - The author points out that after Joseph's death, Rhoda Richards was sealed to "her cousin Brigham Young"
- Response to claim: 333 - Parley P. Pratt's is claimed to have been seald to his "last wife, Eleanor McComb McLean...without divorcing her legal husband"
- Response to claim: 345 - Edwin Wooley married Louisa Chapin Rising as a polygamous wife even though she was not divorced from her legal husband
- Response to claim: 351 - Ezra Taft Benson was "a correspondent of FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover"
Response to claim: 325 - The author points out that after Joseph's death, Rhoda Richards was sealed to "her cousin Brigham Young"
The author(s) of Nauvoo Polygamy make(s) the following claim:
The author points out that after Joseph's death, Rhoda Richards was sealed to "her cousin Brigham Young."
FAIR's Response
Fact checking results: This claim contains propaganda - The author, or the author's source, is providing information or ideas in a slanted way in order to instill a particular attitude or response in the reader
Here the author again relies on presentism to provide a hostile interpretive lens. It was not unusual for first cousins to marry. Nineteen of the present-day states permit unrestricted marriage between first cousins, and most countries have no restrictions at all on marriage between cousins. In its exploitation of the presentist fallacy, the author’s remark is utterly irrelevant in its historical context.
Response to claim: 333 - Parley P. Pratt's is claimed to have been seald to his "last wife, Eleanor McComb McLean...without divorcing her legal husband"
The author(s) of Nauvoo Polygamy make(s) the following claim:
Parley P. Pratt's is claimed to have been seald to his "last wife, Eleanor McComb McLean...without divorcing her legal husband, who fatally shot Parley near Van Buren, Arkansas…."
FAIR's Response
Fact checking results: The author has stated erroneous information or misinterpreted their sources
The author relies on presentism. Practices regarding marriage and divorce differed substantially from the 20th or 21st century. The author also tells us nothing about McComb's tyrannical and abusive husband, making him appear the wronged party.- Polygamy/Parley P. Pratt's marriage and murder
- Polygamy/Remarrying without civil divorce
- Gregory L. Smith, A review of Nauvoo Polygamy:...but we called it celestial marriage by George D. Smith. FARMS Review, Vol. 20, Issue 2. (Detailed book review)
Response to claim: 345 - Edwin Wooley married Louisa Chapin Rising as a polygamous wife even though she was not divorced from her legal husband
The author(s) of Nauvoo Polygamy make(s) the following claim:
Edwin Wooley married Louisa Chapin Rising as a polygamous wife even though she was not divorced from her legal husband.
FAIR's Response
Fact checking results: The author has stated erroneous information or misinterpreted their sources
- Polygamy/Remarrying without civil divorce
- Criticism of Mormonism/Books/Presentism
- Gregory L. Smith, A review of Nauvoo Polygamy:...but we called it celestial marriage by George D. Smith. FARMS Review, Vol. 20, Issue 2. (Detailed book review)
Response to claim: 351 - Ezra Taft Benson was "a correspondent of FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover"
The author(s) make(s) the following claim:
Ezra Taft Benson was "a correspondent of FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover…."
FAIR's Response
Fact checking results: This claim contains propaganda - The author, or the author's source, is providing information or ideas in a slanted way in order to instill a particular attitude or response in the reader
It is not clear what relevance this has to Benson, plural marriage, or anything else, save perhaps that it associates the church president with a figure now regarded as repressive, megalomaniacal, and something of a sexual deviant.- Criticism of Mormonism/Books/Loaded and prejudicial language
- Gregory L. Smith, A review of Nauvoo Polygamy:...but we called it celestial marriage by George D. Smith. FARMS Review, Vol. 20, Issue 2. (Detailed book review)
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