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| − | It is claimed that Joseph didn't become "partial to the Methodist sect" until at least 1823, after Alvin's death, or as late as 1838, rather than in 1820 as he claimed in his 1838 First Vision account.
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| − | It is entirely reasonable to conclude that Joseph was telling the truth when he said that he became "partial to the Methodist sect" in 1820. Critics who attempt to place this event later in Joseph's life do so in order to discredit the story of the First Vision.
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| − | ''I became partial to the Methodist sect...''<br>
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| − | —Joseph Smith's 1838 First Vision account
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| − | ===Critical claims===
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| − | The Wikipedia article "First Vision" (as of May 18, 2009) contains the assertion:
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| − | While [Joseph] almost certainly never formally joined the Methodist church, he did associate himself with the Methodists eight years after he said he had been instructed by God not to join any established denomination.
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| − | In {{CriticalWork:Matzko:Young Joseph Smith|pages=71}}, the author claims:
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| − | Although Joseph later wrote that his “Father’s family was proselyted to the Presbyterian faith,”—rather than emphasizing his mother’s membership—the death of Alvin and the arrival of Stockton seem to have driven both Smith and his father (who glided easily between religious skepticism and folk mysticism) farther from the Presbyterian church and its Calvinistic
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| − | doctrine. It was probably during this period that Joseph “became partial to the Methodist sect,” whose opposition to Reformed doctrine was notorious.
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| − | ===Does this mean Joseph became a Methodist?===
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| − | Turner's source is not talking about Joseph Smith acting as an exhorter in evening meetings of the Methodist denomination, but rather the evening meetings spoken of were the gatherings of the juvenile debate club. This conclusion is supported by a newspaper article in the Western Farmer which announced that the Palmyra debate club would begin meeting in the local schoolhouse on 25 January 1822.<ref> {{Periodical:Western Farmer:1822}}</ref> We learn from firsthand witnesses that children attended school in Palmyra during the winter months and through the end of March.<ref>{{Book:Anderson:History of Joseph Smith by His Mother|pages=433}} {{CitationSource:John H. Gilbert:1892|pages=2-3}}</ref> Since school was in session during the same time period when the debate club was meeting it would not be possible for them occupy the same building at the same time. Therefore, the debate club would have to meet at the schoolhouse during evening hours.
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| − | It should also be noted that no critic or advocate of this theory has ever bothered to explain just how Joseph Smith became a Methodist exhorter without first becoming a Methodist. And remember, Pomeroy Tucker stated quite clearly in his book that even though Joseph attended Methodist meetings he did not convert to that faith.<ref>{{CriticalWork:Tucker:Origin Rise and Progress of Mormonism|pages=17-18}} Reproduced in {{Book:Vogel:EMD:Short|pages=94-95|vol=3}}</ref>
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