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==Question: What did the husband of Marinda Nancy Johnson, Orson Hyde, know about her sealing to Joseph Smith for eternity?==
 
===There are contradictory accounts which make it impossible to know for certain whether or not Orson knew of and consented to Marinda's sealing for eternity to Joseph===
 
 
 
Marinda Nancy Johnson was married to Orson Hyde. There are contradictory accounts which make it impossible to know for certain whether or not Orson knew of and consented to Marinda's sealing for eternity to Joseph. However, according to Hales, "If the 1842 date for the sealing between Joseph and Marinda marriage is correct, then Joseph may have been sealed to Marinda in an “eternity only” sealing without Orson Hyde’s knowledge." Yet he also notes that "John D. Lee remembered that Orson gave his permission: 'Hyde’s wife, with his consent, was sealed to Joseph for an eternal state.'" <ref>John D. Lee, ''Mormonism Unveiled'', or, The Life and Confessions of the Late Mormon Bishop, John D. Lee and W. W. Bishop, eds. (St. Louis: Byron, Brand, 1877), 147. Lee added “but I do not assert the fact.”</ref>
 
 
 
The popular rumor among critics is that Joseph was sealed to Marinda while her husband Orson was away on a mission, however, upon Hyde's return he quickly asked Joseph to seal him in a new polygamous marriage of his own.
 
 
 
===The accounts of the sealing of Marinda to Joseph===
 
 
 
Much of what we know about the Hyde sealing is also contaminated by hostile, mutually contradictory accounts that contain some known false information.
 
 
 
 
 
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| Sidney Rigdon<ref>J. GI SON DIVINE [Sidney Rigdon], "To the Sisters of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints," ''Latter Day Saint's Messenger and Advocate'' (Pittsburgh) 1/10 (15 March 1845): 154–158.</ref> ||1845||
 
*Orson unaware of marriage
 
*Orson refused to live with wife when he found out
 
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Contrary to claim, Orson continued to live with Miranda and father children by her.
 
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| William Hall<ref>{{CriticalWork:Hall:Abominations of Mormonism/Full title|pages=113}}</ref> ||1852||
 
* Joseph demanded Miranda and all Orson's money to let him back in the Church
 
* "Many jokes were cracked at his [Hyde's] expense."
 
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Very unlikely—no record of others mocking Hyde; Hall is unreliable on other marriages as well. <ref>{{Book:Compton:ISL/Short|pages=239}}</ref>  Orson's return to the quorum was in June 1839, <ref> See {{Book:Smith:HC/Short|pages=345|vol=3}} {{Book:Roberts:CHC|pages=24–25n12|vol=2}} {{Book:Woodruff:Journal|vol=1|pages=340|date=25 June 1839}}</ref> putting Hall's account two years too early for marriage. <ref>See {{Book:Compton:ISL/Short|pages=238}}</ref>
 
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| Ann Eliza Young<ref>{{CriticalWork:Young:Wife No. 19/Full title|pages=324&ndash;326}}</ref> ||1876||
 
* Orson did not know of marriage
 
* Angry when he learned of it
 
* Swore would not live with his wife; did so anyway.
 
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Too young to have any first-hand knowledge of Nauvoo, her book's intent was clearly to titillate with stories of polygamous intrigue.  Claims that Brigham told Orson that she was only to be his wife for time, and Joseph's for eternity—but this is frankly false, since sealed to Orson in early 1846. <ref>{{Book:Compton:ISL/Short|pages=243}}: "Marinda was sealed to Orson Hyde, not Smith, for time and eternity on January 11, 1846."</ref>  She also confuses the temporality, since she describes Hyde "in a furious passion," because "he thought it no harm for him to win the affection of another man's wife… but he did not propose having his rights interfered with even by the holy Prophet whose teachings he so implicitly followed" (326).  Yet, Orson did not begin practicing plural marriage until after he knew of Miranda's sealing to Joseph.
 
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| John D. Lee<ref>{{CriticalWork:Lee:Mormonism Unvailed/Full title|pages=147}}</ref> ||1877||
 
* "Report said that Hyde's wife, with his consent, was sealed to Joseph for an eternal state, but I do not assert the fact."
 
||Lee's work was published posthumously and may have been altered by anti-Mormon editor.
 
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The Hydes were to divorce in 1870: "The precise reasons for the divorce are not known, but it appears that Orson was giving most of his attention to his younger wives at this time." <ref>{{Book:Compton:ISL/Short|pages=230–243}}</ref>
 
 
 
Two of Marinda's children have been suggested as potential children by Joseph, but this is very unlikely (see [[Joseph_Smith_and_polygamy/Children_of_polygamous_marriages/Book_chapter|here]]).
 
 
 
{{HalesPluralWifeBiography|wife=Marinda Nancy Johnson|link=http://josephsmithspolygamy.org/history-2/plural-wives-overview/marinda-nancy-johnson/}}
 
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