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#REDIRECT [[Question: Why did President Tanner say: "When the prophet speaks the debate is over"?]]
{{Resource Title|N. Eldon Tanner once said, "When the prophet speaks the debate is over."}}
 
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N. Eldon Tanner once said, "When the prophet speaks the debate is over."
 
*One critic of the Church even goes so far to state, "Some things that are true are not very useful + It is wrong to criticize leaders of the Church, even if the criticism is true + Spying and monitoring on members + Intellectuals are dangerous + When the prophet speaks the debate is over + Obedience is the First Law of Heaven = Policies and practices you’d expect to find in a totalitarian system such as North Korea or 1984; not from the gospel of Jesus Christ." <ref>Jeremy Runnells, "Letter to a CES Director" (2013)</ref>
 
 
 
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President Tanner is speaking about several specific ''moral'' issues, which he outlines in his talk. He is not advocating that one should not think for themselves:
 
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Why should there be any debate over the moral issues which are confounding the world today? From the beginning God has made his position very clear in regard to marriage, divorce, family life and love of children, immorality, chastity, virtue, and the high and holy role of women. Through his prophet today he reiterates the Old and New Testament teachings which are clear on these matters.
 
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To gain these riches many engage in the debates on moral issues. The <span style="color:red">alcohol</span> and <span style="color:red">tobacco</span> industries and dealers in <span style="color:red">pornography</span> are accumulating great wealth at the <span style="color:red">expense of the people</span> and to the <span style="color:red">detriment of their health</span>. With all the evidence of <span style="color:red">child pornography</span>, it is deplorable that any parent would allow any <span style="color:red">child to be so exploited</span>. Some children are being <span style="color:red">neglected</span> and <span style="color:red">abused</span> because their mothers are <span style="color:red">seeking worldly pleasures</span> and careers outside the home. Many fathers are more concerned with their financial success than with the welfare of their wives and children.
 
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We must turn all this about. We cannot serve God and mammon. Whose side are we on? <span style="color:blue">When the prophet speaks the debate is over.</span>
 
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It is unfair and dishonest to remove quotes from their context in order to compare the Church to North Korea or the government in the film ''1984''.
 
 
 
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|summary=It is claimed that the Church teaches that we should not exercise independent thought. "When our leaders speak, the thinking has been done."
 
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