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| − | A "mormoninfographic" erroneously indicates that the words "God the Father" and "Jesus Christ" appear in Joseph's 1838 account | + | [[pt:A Primeira Visão/As críticas da Primeira Visão/Um "Infográfico Mórmon" erroneamente indica que as palavras "Deus o Pai" e "Jesus Cristo" aparecem no registro de Joseph de 1838]] |
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| − | This is what the author of the graphic said regarding the 1835 account: "you seem to be suggesting that I should depict something other than what is in the written record. There's nothing in the 1835 account that would indicate God or Jesus only what you are inferring from other accounts." (See post by "bjpascoal," posted on June 21, 2013 on ''Mormon Dialogue and Discussion Board''. {{link|url=http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/61036-the-latest-anti-mormon-deception-futuremissionarycom/page__st__160#entry1209271317}}) So, where in the 1838 written record do the names "God the Father" and "Jesus Christ" appear? The author "check marked" two items that are not present in the written record.
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| − | We agree that that "This is my beloved son" implies that the personages are God the Father and Jesus Christ, but the only way to infer that is to look at something that is not in the written (1838) record - you have to use the Bible (the account of Jesus' baptism) to make the connection. Therefore, allowing an additional record to be used to clarify Joseph's written words from 1838 violates the author's own rules: He won't allow Joseph's words from the other accounts to used to to clarify, yet he allows the Bible to be used to clarify.
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