Plural marriage practiced after the First Manifesto - Revision history

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	~~<onlyinclude>~~		=''Gospel Topics'': "The Second Manifesto. At first, the performance of new plural marriages after the Manifesto was largely unknown to people outside the Church"=
	~~{{H2~~		[https://www.lds.org/topics/the-manifesto-and-the-end-of-plural-marriage?lang=eng "The Manifesto and the End of Plural Marriage,"] ''Gospel Topics'' on LDS.org:
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	~~\|H=Plural marriage practiced after~~ the ~~First Manifesto~~		At first, the performance of new plural marriages after the Manifesto was largely unknown to people outside the Church. When discovered, these marriages troubled many Americans, especially after President George Q. Cannon stated in an 1899 interview with the New York Herald that new plural marriages might be performed in Canada and Mexico.40 After the election of B. H. Roberts, a member of the First Council of the Seventy, to the U.S. Congress, it became known that Roberts had three wives, one of whom he married after the Manifesto. A petition of 7 million signatures demanded that Roberts not be seated. Congress complied, and Roberts was barred from his office.41
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	~~\|L1~~=~~Gospel Topics:~~ "The ~~Second~~ Manifesto. At first, the performance of new plural marriages after the Manifesto was largely unknown to people outside the Church"		The exclusion of B. H. Roberts opened Mormon marital practices to renewed scrutiny. Church President Lorenzo Snow issued a statement clarifying that new plural marriages had ceased in the Church and that the Manifesto extended to all parts of the world, counsel he repeated in private. Even so, a small number of new plural marriages continued to be performed, probably without President Snow’s knowledge or approval. After Joseph F. Smith became Church President in 1901, a small number of new plural marriages were also performed during the early years of his administration.<ref>[https://www.lds.org/topics/the-manifesto-and-the-end-of-plural-marriage?lang=eng "The Manifesto and the End of Plural Marriage,"] ''Gospel Topics'' on LDS.org</ref>{{read more\|url=https://www.lds.org/topics/the-manifesto-and-the-end-of-plural-marriage?lang=eng}}
	~~\|L2~~=Gospel Topics: "The Church’s role in these marriages became a subject of intense debate after Reed Smoot, an Apostle, was elected to the U.S. Senate in 1903"		</blockquote>
	\|L3=Gospel Topics: "Church President Joseph F. Smith took the stand in the Senate chamber in March 1904. When asked, he defended his family relationships"
	~~\|L4~~=~~Question~~: ~~Why were some~~ plural marriages performed ~~after~~ the Manifesto?		=''Gospel Topics'': "The Church’s role in these marriages became a subject of intense debate after Reed Smoot, an Apostle, was elected to the U.S. Senate in 1903"=
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	</~~onlyinclude~~>		The Church’s role in these marriages became a subject of intense debate after Reed Smoot, an Apostle, was elected to the U.S. Senate in 1903. Although Smoot was a monogamist, his apostleship put his loyalty to the country under scrutiny. How could Smoot both uphold the laws of the Church, some of whose officers had performed, consented to, or participated in new plural marriages, and uphold the laws of the land, which made plural marriage illegal? For four years legislators debated this question in lengthy public hearings.<ref>[https://www.lds.org/topics/the-manifesto-and-the-end-of-plural-marriage?lang=eng "The Manifesto and the End of Plural Marriage,"] ''Gospel Topics'' on LDS.org</ref>{{read more\|url=https://www.lds.org/topics/the-manifesto-and-the-end-of-plural-marriage?lang=eng}}
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			=''Gospel Topics'': "Church President Joseph F. Smith took the stand in the Senate chamber in March 1904. When asked, he defended his family relationships"=
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			The Senate called on many witnesses to testify. Church President Joseph F. Smith took the stand in the Senate chamber in March 1904. When asked, he defended his family relationships, telling the committee that he had cohabited with his wives and fathered children with them since 1890. He said it would be dishonorable of him to break the sacred covenants he had made with his wives and with God. When questioned about new plural marriages performed since 1890, President Smith carefully distinguished between actions sanctioned by the Church and ratified in Church councils and conferences, and the actions undertaken by individual members of the Church. "There never has been a plural marriage by the consent or sanction or knowledge or approval of the church since the manifesto," he testified.43

			In this legal setting, President Smith sought to protect the Church while stating the truth. His testimony conveyed a distinction Church leaders had long understood: the Manifesto removed the divine command for the Church collectively to sustain and defend plural marriage; it had not, up to this time, prohibited individuals from continuing to practice or perform plural marriage as a matter of religious conscience.<ref>[https://www.lds.org/topics/the-manifesto-and-the-end-of-plural-marriage?lang=eng "The Manifesto and the End of Plural Marriage,"] ''Gospel Topics'' on LDS.org</ref>{{read more\|url=https://www.lds.org/topics/the-manifesto-and-the-end-of-plural-marriage?lang=eng}}
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			\|link=http://www.fairmormon.org/perspectives/publications/polygamy-prophets-and-prevarication
			\|title=Polygamy, Prophets, and Prevarication: Frequently and Rarely Asked Questions about the Initiation, Practice, and Cessation of Plural Marriage in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
			\|author=Gregory L. Smith, M.D.
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			\|summary=We note again that the Church and its members were in an impossible position–the government showed no concern for the women and children who would be left without support if government policies were obeyed. Members and leaders again had agonizing choices to make, in which all their moral duties simply could not be honored. Joseph F. Smith wrote to a member who faced just this dilemma, “The whole thing in a nut shell is this, you should keep your covenants with your family and you should also not violate the law. Now if you can comprehend it–you will grasp the situation.”
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			The situation–which critics and many modern members have not grasped–is that it was impossible to do both. A choice had to be made, the Saints chose whatever was most important, and most seem to have chosen support for families over being straightforward with the government.
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			President Woodruff continued similar tactics throughout the remainder of his administration. By July 1892 he had granted a few recommends for plural marriages in Mexico, and in June 1897 marriages sanctioned by the First Presidency were performed at sea, on the Great Lakes, and in Mexico. There is circumstantial evidence that President Woodruff himself married a plural wife at sea in September 1897. At times, President Woodruff seems to have maintained some “plausible deniability” by declining to personally approve a polygamous marriage, while referring the potential polygamists to his counselor, George Q. Cannon, for a recommend.
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			\|summary=After the Manifesto, monogamy was advocated in the Church both over the pulpit and through the press. On an exceptional basis, some new plural marriages were performed between 1890 and 1904, especially in Mexico and Canada, outside the jurisdiction of U.S. law; a small number of plural marriages were performed within the United States during those years. In 1904, the Church strictly prohibited new plural marriages. Today, any person who practices plural marriage cannot become or remain a member of the Church.
			\|title=Plural Marriage and Families in Early Utah
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			\|date=2013
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