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	He tarried until Wednesday, 11th, when, after breakfast, I told him, that my God told me, that his god was the devil, and I could not keep him any longer, and he must depart. And so I, for once, cast out the devil in bodily shape, and I believe a murderer."		He tarried until Wednesday, 11th, when, after breakfast, I told him, that my God told me, that his god was the devil, and I could not keep him any longer, and he must depart. And so I, for once, cast out the devil in bodily shape, and I believe a murderer."
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	#The author cites Jesse, ''Papers of Joseph Smith'', 2:68–73, 568–69.		#The author cites Jesse, ''Papers of Joseph Smith'', 2:68–73, 568–69.
	*This information is also found in ''History of the Church'' 2:306, ''The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith'', p. 78 and ''Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith'', 104.		#This information is also found in ''History of the Church'' 2:306, ''The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith'', p. 78 and ''Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith'', 104.
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	*Joseph was simply relating what "Matthias" said to him—he wasn't offering an opinion on whether or not he believed it was true. This states absolutely ''nothing'' about what Joseph Smith believed about the "end of the world."		*Joseph was simply relating what "Matthias" said to him—he wasn't offering an opinion on whether or not he believed it was true. This states absolutely ''nothing'' about what Joseph Smith believed about the "end of the world."
	*As an example of how the author distorts this, suppose we take the sentence immediately preceding the one that the author chose and apply the same logic. We would have: "Without objection from Smith, Matthias asserted: 'that all the railroads, canals, and other improvements are projected by the spirits of the resurrection.'"		*As an example of how the author distorts this, suppose we take the sentence immediately preceding the one that the author chose and apply the same logic. We would have: "Without objection from Smith, Matthias asserted: 'that all the railroads, canals, and other improvements are projected by the spirits of the resurrection.'"
	*The author completely ignores the fact that Joseph said that Matthias' "doctrine was of the devil" and that Joseph sent him on his way, instead implying that Matthias was "credible enough"—A complete reversal of meaning!		*The author completely ignores the fact that Joseph said that Matthias' "doctrine was of the devil" and that Joseph sent him on his way, instead implying that Matthias was "credible enough"—A complete reversal of meaning!
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	\|claim=The author claims that "Smith '''found [Matthias] credible enough''' to converse with from 11:00 a.m. until evening when Smith invited him to stay for dinner." "'''Without objection from Smith''', Matthias asserted:''' 'The silence spoken of by John the Revelator…is between 1830 & 1851….'''" {{ea}}		\|claim=The author claims that "Smith '''found [Matthias] credible enough''' to converse with from 11:00 a.m. until evening when Smith invited him to stay for dinner." "'''Without objection from Smith''', Matthias asserted:''' 'The silence spoken of by John the Revelator…is between 1830 & 1851….'''" {{ea}}
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			#The author cites Jesse, ''Papers of Joseph Smith'', 2:68–73, 568–69.
			*This information is also found in ''History of the Church'' 2:306, ''The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith'', p. 78 and ''Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith'', 104.
			*Joseph was simply relating what "Matthias" said to him—he wasn't offering an opinion on whether or not he believed it was true. This states absolutely ''nothing'' about what Joseph Smith believed about the "end of the world."
			*As an example of how the author distorts this, suppose we take the sentence immediately preceding the one that the author chose and apply the same logic. We would have: "Without objection from Smith, Matthias asserted: 'that all the railroads, canals, and other improvements are projected by the spirits of the resurrection.'"
			*The author completely ignores the fact that Joseph said that Matthias' "doctrine was of the devil" and that Joseph sent him on his way, instead implying that Matthias was "credible enough"—A complete reversal of meaning!
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	I then withdrew to transact some business with a gentleman who had called to see me, when Joshua informed my scribe that he was born in Cambridge, Washington County, New York. He says that all the railroads, canals, and other improvements are projected by the spirits of the resurrection. '''The silence spoken of by John the Revelator''', which is to be in heaven for the space of half an hour, '''is between 1830 and 1851''', during which time the judgments of God will be poured out, after that time there will be peace.		I then withdrew to transact some business with a gentleman who had called to see me, when Joshua informed my scribe that he was born in Cambridge, Washington County, New York. He says that all the railroads, canals, and other improvements are projected by the spirits of the resurrection. '''The silence spoken of by John the Revelator''', which is to be in heaven for the space of half an hour, '''is between 1830 and 1851''', during which time the judgments of God will be poured out, after that time there will be peace.
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	He tarried until Wednesday, 11th, when, after breakfast, I told him, that my God told me, that his god was the devil, and I could not keep him any longer, and he must depart. And so I, for once, cast out the devil in bodily shape, and I believe a murderer."		He tarried until Wednesday, 11th, when, after breakfast, I told him, that my God told me, that his god was the devil, and I could not keep him any longer, and he must depart. And so I, for once, cast out the devil in bodily shape, and I believe a murderer."
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	~~#The author cites Jesse, ''Papers of Joseph Smith'', 2:68–73, 568–69.~~
	*This information is also found in ''History of the Church'' 2:306, ''The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith'', p. 78 and ''Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith'', 104.
	*Joseph was simply relating what "Matthias" said to him—he wasn't offering an opinion on whether or not he believed it was true. This states absolutely ''nothing'' about what Joseph Smith believed about the "end of the world."
	*As an example of how the author distorts this, suppose we take the sentence immediately preceding the one that the author chose and apply the same logic. We would have: "Without objection from Smith, Matthias asserted: 'that all the railroads, canals, and other improvements are projected by the spirits of the resurrection.'"
	*The author completely ignores the fact that Joseph said that Matthias' "doctrine was of the devil" and that Joseph sent him on his way, instead implying that Matthias was "credible enough"—A complete reversal of meaning!
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	The author claims that, "…understandably hesitant to specify a precise date for the end of the world, Smith knew that''' 'our redemption draweth near.' '''" {{ea}}		The author claims that, "…understandably hesitant to specify a precise date for the end of the world, Smith knew that''' 'our redemption draweth near.' '''" {{ea}}
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	\|claim=The author claims that "Smith '''found [Matthias] credible enough''' to converse with from 11:00 a.m. until evening when Smith invited him to stay for dinner." "'''Without objection from Smith''', Matthias asserted:''' 'The silence spoken of by John the Revelator…is between 1830 & 1851….'''" {{ea}}		\|claim=The author claims that "Smith '''found [Matthias] credible enough''' to converse with from 11:00 a.m. until evening when Smith invited him to stay for dinner." "'''Without objection from Smith''', Matthias asserted:''' 'The silence spoken of by John the Revelator…is between 1830 & 1851….'''" {{ea}}
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	\|claim=The author states that Oliver Cowdery said Joseph wanted to "commune with some kind of messenger."		\|claim=The author states that Oliver Cowdery said Joseph wanted to "commune with some kind of messenger."
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	\|claim=The author states that Oliver Cowdery said Joseph "had heard of the power of enchantment, and a thousand like stories, which held the hidden treasures of the earth."		\|claim=The author states that Oliver Cowdery said Joseph "had heard of the power of enchantment, and a thousand like stories, which held the hidden treasures of the earth."
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	\|claim=The author states that "Emma did not leave a diary, and her letters do not mention anything about Joseph's adolescence or later experiences with women...It was in a mysterious atmosphere of imaginative lore and a mix of theology and magic that Joseph and Emma eloped."		\|claim=The author states that "Emma did not leave a diary, and her letters do not mention anything about Joseph's adolescence or later experiences with women...It was in a mysterious atmosphere of imaginative lore and a mix of theology and magic that Joseph and Emma eloped."
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	\|claim=The author claims that "Joseph wrote in his journal on December 4, 1832, 'Oh, Lord, deliver thy servant out of temtations [sic] and fill his heart with wisdom and understanding.' If this was not in reference to Fanny Alger, it coincided with the report of two of Joseph's scribes, Warren Parrish and Oliver Cowdery, that Joseph had been 'found' in the hay with his housekeeper."		\|claim=The author claims that "Joseph wrote in his journal on December 4, 1832, 'Oh, Lord, deliver thy servant out of temtations [sic] and fill his heart with wisdom and understanding.' If this was not in reference to Fanny Alger, it coincided with the report of two of Joseph's scribes, Warren Parrish and Oliver Cowdery, that Joseph had been 'found' in the hay with his housekeeper."
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	\|claim=The author state that "Orson Hyde reported seeing a 'wonderful lustful spirit' on his visit to the polygamous Cochranite community….In 1834 he acquired his own lustful spirit in Marinda Johnson…."		\|claim=The author state that "Orson Hyde reported seeing a 'wonderful lustful spirit' on his visit to the polygamous Cochranite community….In 1834 he acquired his own lustful spirit in Marinda Johnson…."
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	\|claim=The author claims that the murder of Parley P. Pratt was "the proximate cause of the Mountain Meadows Massacre."		\|claim=The author claims that the murder of Parley P. Pratt was "the proximate cause of the Mountain Meadows Massacre."
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	\|claim=The author claims that "Joseph Smith had offered a time frame for Jesus' return, deciding that 'fifty-six years should wind up the scene and the Saviour should come to his people.' He made this assessment in February 1835."		\|claim=The author claims that "Joseph Smith had offered a time frame for Jesus' return, deciding that 'fifty-six years should wind up the scene and the Saviour should come to his people.' He made this assessment in February 1835."
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	The author states, "Instead of evaluating a difficult past in order not to repeat it, the church leadership tried to separate its troubles from their apparent causes."		The author states, "Instead of evaluating a difficult past in order not to repeat it, the church leadership tried to separate its troubles from their apparent causes."
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	*There is no basis to the claim that LDS leaders ignored the role which plural marriage caused in their difficulties. They could hardly forget it.		*There is no basis to the claim that LDS leaders ignored the role which plural marriage caused in their difficulties. They could hardly forget it.

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	#*[http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/EoM&CISOPTR=4391&CISOSHOW=4055&REC=1 "Plural Marriage"], Encyclopedia of Mormonism		#[http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/EoM&CISOPTR=4391&CISOSHOW=4055&REC=1 "Plural Marriage"], Encyclopedia of Mormonism
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	*Joseph's note is referring to the redemption of the Saints in Missouri and their deliverance from persecution. The quote has ''nothing'' to do with the "end of the world." This is a complete misreading of the source material.		*Joseph's note is referring to the redemption of the Saints in Missouri and their deliverance from persecution. The quote has ''nothing'' to do with the "end of the world." This is a complete misreading of the source material.
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	#*Jesse, 306		#Jesse, 306
	*Jessee, ''The Personal Writing of Joseph Smith'', p. 283		*Jessee, ''The Personal Writing of Joseph Smith'', p. 283
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	#*The author cites Jesse, ''Papers of Joseph Smith'', 2:68–73, 568–69.		#The author cites Jesse, ''Papers of Joseph Smith'', 2:68–73, 568–69.
	*This information is also found in ''History of the Church'' 2:306, ''The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith'', p. 78 and ''Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith'', 104.		*This information is also found in ''History of the Church'' 2:306, ''The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith'', p. 78 and ''Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith'', 104.
	*Joseph was simply relating what "Matthias" said to him—he wasn't offering an opinion on whether or not he believed it was true. This states absolutely ''nothing'' about what Joseph Smith believed about the "end of the world."		*Joseph was simply relating what "Matthias" said to him—he wasn't offering an opinion on whether or not he believed it was true. This states absolutely ''nothing'' about what Joseph Smith believed about the "end of the world."
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	#*{{CriticalWork:Van Wagoner:Mormon Polygamy\|pages=8}}		#{{CriticalWork:Van Wagoner:Mormon Polygamy\|pages=8}}
	*Where, exactly, does one use this statement from the source to draw the conclusion that Latter-day Saints treated wives as "community property?" The source describes Matthews' views of communal marriage—''not'' Joseph Smith's.		*Where, exactly, does one use this statement from the source to draw the conclusion that Latter-day Saints treated wives as "community property?" The source describes Matthews' views of communal marriage—''not'' Joseph Smith's.
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	*One wonders, then, why this text was misquoted in this manner. It turns out that the same misquote exists in D. Michael Quinn's, ''Early Mormonism and the Magic World View'', 125, 134. The author appears to be using Quinn's quotes and attributing to his sources without checking the primary source in order to make sure that ''Quinn'' got it right. And, since Quinn's intent was to portray Moroni in the idiom of "magic," it suited his purpose to call him "some kind ''of'' messenger," which makes it sound as if Joseph didn't know quite what to expect, or even the nature of the forces he was dealing with. In fact, Joseph was praying to God—a messenger from God to a sinful man would be kind, or merciful.		*One wonders, then, why this text was misquoted in this manner. It turns out that the same misquote exists in D. Michael Quinn's, ''Early Mormonism and the Magic World View'', 125, 134. The author appears to be using Quinn's quotes and attributing to his sources without checking the primary source in order to make sure that ''Quinn'' got it right. And, since Quinn's intent was to portray Moroni in the idiom of "magic," it suited his purpose to call him "some kind ''of'' messenger," which makes it sound as if Joseph didn't know quite what to expect, or even the nature of the forces he was dealing with. In fact, Joseph was praying to God—a messenger from God to a sinful man would be kind, or merciful.
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	#*[http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Latter_Day_Saints%27_Messenger_and_Advocate/Volume_1/Number_5/Letter_to_W._W._Phelps_from_Oliver_Cowdery_(Feb._27,1835) Oliver Cowdery to W.W. Phelps], ''LDS Messenger and Advocate'' 1 [No. 5] (Feb 1835): 79.		#[http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Latter_Day_Saints%27_Messenger_and_Advocate/Volume_1/Number_5/Letter_to_W._W._Phelps_from_Oliver_Cowdery_(Feb._27,1835) Oliver Cowdery to W.W. Phelps], ''LDS Messenger and Advocate'' 1 [No. 5] (Feb 1835): 79.
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	*Once again, it is evident that the author does not check the primary sources. Instead, he quotes secondary sources and copies their sometimes erroneous citations without verifying whether or not they are correct.		*Once again, it is evident that the author does not check the primary sources. Instead, he quotes secondary sources and copies their sometimes erroneous citations without verifying whether or not they are correct.
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	#*Author cites Oliver Cowdery to W.W. Phelps, ''Messenger and Advocate'' 1 (Feb 1835): 79.		#Author cites Oliver Cowdery to W.W. Phelps, ''Messenger and Advocate'' 1 (Feb 1835): 79.
	*CITATION is in ERROR. The author is quoting from Quinn, ''Early Mormonism and the Magic World View'', 125, 134 and Vogel, ''Indian Origins'', 14–15.		*CITATION is in ERROR. The author is quoting from Quinn, ''Early Mormonism and the Magic World View'', 125, 134 and Vogel, ''Indian Origins'', 14–15.
	*Actual quote is found in: [http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Latter_Day_Saints%27_Messenger_and_Advocate/Volume_2/Number_1/Letter_VIII Oliver Cowdery to W.W. Phelps], LDS Messenger and Advocate 2/1 (October 1835): 197.		*Actual quote is found in: [http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Latter_Day_Saints%27_Messenger_and_Advocate/Volume_2/Number_1/Letter_VIII Oliver Cowdery to W.W. Phelps], LDS Messenger and Advocate 2/1 (October 1835): 197.
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	* The author's presumption that the Book of Mormon represents Joseph Smith's mind causes this misrepresentation—if the book is an authentic ancient text, it is unsurprising that it contains ideas which are foreign to the preoccupation with race in Joseph's day, as Campbell demonstrates. But, the author probably does not want his readers to come to that conclusion. They will never know about it, unless they check the source.		* The author's presumption that the Book of Mormon represents Joseph Smith's mind causes this misrepresentation—if the book is an authentic ancient text, it is unsurprising that it contains ideas which are foreign to the preoccupation with race in Joseph's day, as Campbell demonstrates. But, the author probably does not want his readers to come to that conclusion. They will never know about it, unless they check the source.
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	#*Campbell, "[http://www.geocities.com/marcschindler1/vignette.htm 'White' or 'Pure': Five Vignettes]," ''Dialogue'' 29 (Winter 1996) 119-120		#Campbell, "[http://www.geocities.com/marcschindler1/vignette.htm 'White' or 'Pure': Five Vignettes]," ''Dialogue'' 29 (Winter 1996) 119-120
	*Lester E. Bush Jr. and Armand L. Mauss, ''Neither White nor Black'' (SLC, Signature Books, 1994).		*Lester E. Bush Jr. and Armand L. Mauss, ''Neither White nor Black'' (SLC, Signature Books, 1994).
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	#*No source provided (One wonders why the author didn't use the available source containing Emma's own words).		#No source provided (One wonders why the author didn't use the available source containing Emma's own words).
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	* Note that the author tries to make Cowdery and Parrish witnesses of details reported ''only'' second- or third-hand by William McLellin. The author likewise says nothing about McLellin's checkered past.		* Note that the author tries to make Cowdery and Parrish witnesses of details reported ''only'' second- or third-hand by William McLellin. The author likewise says nothing about McLellin's checkered past.
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	*Jessee, note 11.		*Jessee, note 11.
	*D. Michael Quinn, ''Mormon Hierarchy: Origins'', 44.		*D. Michael Quinn, ''Mormon Hierarchy: Origins'', 44.
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	*The author is apparently trying to be cute. What he does not tell us is that Hyde’s attitude to the Cochranites’ free love was wholly negative, as his source for the journal indicates.[1] Wonderful is here not being used in the sense of “excit[ing] . . . admiration” but, rather, “strange; astonishing.” Elsewhere anxious that we not misunderstand Victorian idiom, G. D. Smith here provides the reader no help (pp. 41–42).[2] It is not clear that Hyde would have agreed that his marriage partook of the same “lustful spirit.”		*The author is apparently trying to be cute. What he does not tell us is that Hyde’s attitude to the Cochranites’ free love was wholly negative, as his source for the journal indicates.[1] Wonderful is here not being used in the sense of “excit[ing] . . . admiration” but, rather, “strange; astonishing.” Elsewhere anxious that we not misunderstand Victorian idiom, G. D. Smith here provides the reader no help (pp. 41–42).[2] It is not clear that Hyde would have agreed that his marriage partook of the same “lustful spirit.”
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	#*G. D. Smith (p. 532 n. 151) quotes Van Wagoner, ''Mormon Polygamy'', 8. Van Wagoner indicates that Hyde’s journal “disdainfully described” the Cochranites’ practice. Elsewhere Van Wagoner likewise notes that Hyde was “worried” by the practice: “Mormon Polygamy at Nauvoo,” ''Dialogue'' 18/3 (Fall 1985): 69–70)		#G. D. Smith (p. 532 n. 151) quotes Van Wagoner, ''Mormon Polygamy'', 8. Van Wagoner indicates that Hyde’s journal “disdainfully described” the Cochranites’ practice. Elsewhere Van Wagoner likewise notes that Hyde was “worried” by the practice: “Mormon Polygamy at Nauvoo,” ''Dialogue'' 18/3 (Fall 1985): 69–70)
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	* Far from being ''the proximate cause'', Pratt's murder was a minor factor which played little role in the tragedy of Mountain Meadows. The author's attempt to make a murder related to polygamy into the proximate cause of the Mountain Meadows Massacre is ahistorical.		* Far from being ''the proximate cause'', Pratt's murder was a minor factor which played little role in the tragedy of Mountain Meadows. The author's attempt to make a murder related to polygamy into the proximate cause of the Mountain Meadows Massacre is ahistorical.
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	* The author cites: Scott F. and Maurine J. Proctor, ''Autobiography of Parley P. Pratt'' (1874; Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 2000), 586-99.		* The author cites: Scott F. and Maurine J. Proctor, ''Autobiography of Parley P. Pratt'' (1874; Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 2000), 586-99.
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	* The author fails to tell us that 1890 was the year in which Joseph would be eighty-five years old. Joseph was clear elsewhere that he knew by revelation only that Christ would not come before that time, and frankly admitted that he didn't know whether this meant he would come then, or if he (Joseph) would die before that date.		* The author fails to tell us that 1890 was the year in which Joseph would be eighty-five years old. Joseph was clear elsewhere that he knew by revelation only that Christ would not come before that time, and frankly admitted that he didn't know whether this meant he would come then, or if he (Joseph) would die before that date.
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	*There is no basis to the claim that LDS leaders ignored the role which plural marriage caused in their difficulties. They could hardly forget it.		*There is no basis to the claim that LDS leaders ignored the role which plural marriage caused in their difficulties. They could hardly forget it.
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