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	The three heaven doctrine has no basis in the Bible, but is only based upon a vision of Joseph Smith.		The three heaven doctrine has no basis in the Bible, but is only based upon a vision of Joseph Smith.
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	Latter-day Saints are claimed to reject the "Evangelical belief" that "Christ was born of the virgin Mary, who, when the Holy Ghost came upon her, miraculously conceived the promised messiah."		Latter-day Saints are claimed to reject the "Evangelical belief" that "Christ was born of the virgin Mary, who, when the Holy Ghost came upon her, miraculously conceived the promised messiah."
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	"Until recently, the common belief clearly implied throughout the history of Mormonism...was that Jesus' conception occurred via sexual intercourse between Heavenly Father (Elohim) and Mary."		"Until recently, the common belief clearly implied throughout the history of Mormonism...was that Jesus' conception occurred via sexual intercourse between Heavenly Father (Elohim) and Mary."
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	Early LDS leaders redefined "virgin" to mean a woman who has never known a ''mortal'' man, since Heavenly Father is immortal.		Early LDS leaders redefined "virgin" to mean a woman who has never known a ''mortal'' man, since Heavenly Father is immortal.
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	#*Joseph F. Smith, Charles Penrose, "Message of the First Presidency," vol. 5, p. 34. "...his unique status in the flesh as the offspring of a mortal mother and of an immortal, or resurrected and glorified, Father"		#Joseph F. Smith, Charles Penrose, "Message of the First Presidency," vol. 5, p. 34. "...his unique status in the flesh as the offspring of a mortal mother and of an immortal, or resurrected and glorified, Father"
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	{{propaganda\|This is the author's conclusion. The author wants to talk about a "sexual union" again, but the statement he uses in his citation in the endnotes says nothing about redefining "virgin" to mean a woman who has never known a mortal man. It is certainly true that Latter-day Saints believe Jesus Christ to be the literal son of our Heavenly Father, but the author takes liberties in drawing his conclusions about the event.		{{propaganda\|This is the author's conclusion. The author wants to talk about a "sexual union" again, but the statement he uses in his citation in the endnotes says nothing about redefining "virgin" to mean a woman who has never known a mortal man. It is certainly true that Latter-day Saints believe Jesus Christ to be the literal son of our Heavenly Father, but the author takes liberties in drawing his conclusions about the event.
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	*[[Deification of man\|Human deification/''theosis'']]		*[[Deification of man\|Human deification/''theosis'']]
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	#*Bruce R. McConkie, ''Mormon Doctrine'', "Those who obtain exaltation will gain all power and thus themselves be omnipotent...Godhood is to have the character, possess the attributes, and enjoy the perfections which the Father has. It is to do what he does, have the powers resident in him, and live as he lives."		#Bruce R. McConkie, ''Mormon Doctrine'', "Those who obtain exaltation will gain all power and thus themselves be omnipotent...Godhood is to have the character, possess the attributes, and enjoy the perfections which the Father has. It is to do what he does, have the powers resident in him, and live as he lives."
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	The third and highest kingdom of glory has three levels, and only those who reach the highest level become gods.		The third and highest kingdom of glory has three levels, and only those who reach the highest level become gods.

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	"Until recently, the common belief clearly implied throughout the history of Mormonism...was that Jesus' conception occurred via sexual intercourse between Heavenly Father (Elohim) and Mary."		"Until recently, the common belief clearly implied throughout the history of Mormonism...was that Jesus' conception occurred via sexual intercourse between Heavenly Father (Elohim) and Mary."
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	Early LDS leaders redefined "virgin" to mean a woman who has never known a ''mortal'' man, since Heavenly Father is immortal.		Early LDS leaders redefined "virgin" to mean a woman who has never known a ''mortal'' man, since Heavenly Father is immortal.
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	*Joseph F. Smith, Charles Penrose, "Message of the First Presidency," vol. 5, p. 34. "...his unique status in the flesh as the offspring of a mortal mother and of an immortal, or resurrected and glorified, Father"		#*Joseph F. Smith, Charles Penrose, "Message of the First Presidency," vol. 5, p. 34. "...his unique status in the flesh as the offspring of a mortal mother and of an immortal, or resurrected and glorified, Father"
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	Latter-day Saints reject the idea that the death of Jesus on the cross was a significant part of the atonement.		Latter-day Saints reject the idea that the death of Jesus on the cross was a significant part of the atonement.
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	Cky J. Carrigan, "Did Jesus Christ Die on the Cross to Pay for Our Sins?: A Survey of Mormon Teachings on the Atonement of Christ," Annual Meeting of the Evangelical Ministries to New Religions, Biola University, Jan. 25, 2003.		#Cky J. Carrigan, "Did Jesus Christ Die on the Cross to Pay for Our Sins?: A Survey of Mormon Teachings on the Atonement of Christ," Annual Meeting of the Evangelical Ministries to New Religions, Biola University, Jan. 25, 2003.
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	{{disinformation\|The author has made a false statement. Although Latter-day Saints believe that the atonement was carried out in the Garden of Gethsemane, the death of Jesus Christ on the cross and his subsequent resurrection is of extreme significance to Latter-day Saints.		{{disinformation\|The author has made a false statement. Although Latter-day Saints believe that the atonement was carried out in the Garden of Gethsemane, the death of Jesus Christ on the cross and his subsequent resurrection is of extreme significance to Latter-day Saints.
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	* [[Plan of salvation/Three degrees of glory]]		* [[Plan of salvation/Three degrees of glory]]
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	*Bruce R. McConkie, ''Mormon Doctrine'', "Those who obtain exaltation will gain all power and thus themselves be omnipotent...Godhood is to have the character, possess the attributes, and enjoy the perfections which the Father has. It is to do what he does, have the powers resident in him, and live as he lives."		#*Bruce R. McConkie, ''Mormon Doctrine'', "Those who obtain exaltation will gain all power and thus themselves be omnipotent...Godhood is to have the character, possess the attributes, and enjoy the perfections which the Father has. It is to do what he does, have the powers resident in him, and live as he lives."
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