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	{{propaganda\|Lee's self-serving effort to blame others for the massacre is not terribly persuasive in the absence of other corroborating evidence. There is a great deal of contemporaneous evidence which shows that it was ''local'' leaders who ordered the Massacre, not "the Church" or its general leaders such as Brigham Young.		{{propaganda\|Lee's self-serving effort to blame others for the massacre is not terribly persuasive in the absence of other corroborating evidence. There is a great deal of contemporaneous evidence which shows that it was ''local'' leaders who ordered the Massacre, not "the Church" or its general leaders such as Brigham Young.
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	*''New York Herald'', March 21, 1876.		*''New York Herald'', March 21, 1876.
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	Lee's book ''Mormonism Unveiled or Life & Confession of John D. Lee'' "has generally been determined valid and credible by later scholars of the event, though some have believed Bishop embellished it."		Lee's book ''Mormonism Unveiled or Life & Confession of John D. Lee'' "has generally been determined valid and credible by later scholars of the event, though some have believed Bishop embellished it."
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	{{propaganda\|It is true that Lee's memoir is considered "valid and credible by later scholars" if by "later scholars" one means "hostile authors who wish to blame the Church as an institution and Brigham Young," such as [[Blood_of_the_Prophets:_Brigham_Young_and_the_Massacre_at_Mountain_Meadows#Reviews_of_this_work\|Bagley]], [[Under_the_Banner_of_Heaven#Reviews of this work\|Krakauer]], or Stenhouse. This is assuredly ''not'' true of the broader scholarly consensus.		{{propaganda\|It is true that Lee's memoir is considered "valid and credible by later scholars" if by "later scholars" one means "hostile authors who wish to blame the Church as an institution and Brigham Young," such as [[Blood_of_the_Prophets:_Brigham_Young_and_the_Massacre_at_Mountain_Meadows#Reviews_of_this_work\|Bagley]], [[Under_the_Banner_of_Heaven#Reviews of this work\|Krakauer]], or Stenhouse. This is assuredly ''not'' true of the broader scholarly consensus.
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	Lee predicted that Brigham would die within six months of Lee's death if Lee were not guilty. Brigham died six months after Lee.		Lee predicted that Brigham would die within six months of Lee's death if Lee were not guilty. Brigham died six months after Lee.
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	{{disinformation\|Robert Crockett: "Her suggestion that she is an insider to the Latter-day Saint psyche proves unconvincing because she makes mistakes that careful historians of Mormon Americana do not." <ref>{{FR-16-1-9}}</ref>		{{disinformation\|Robert Crockett: "Her suggestion that she is an insider to the Latter-day Saint psyche proves unconvincing because she makes mistakes that careful historians of Mormon Americana do not." <ref>{{FR-16-1-9}}</ref>
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