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	The author mentions the "execution-style killing of six California emigrants."		The author mentions the "execution-style killing of six California emigrants."
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	The author mentions that "castration and murder of another apostate."		The author mentions that "castration and murder of another apostate."
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	{{misinformation\|The castration did occur, but it had nothing to do with the man being an aposate.}}		{{misinformation\|The castration did occur, but it had nothing to do with the man being an aposate.}}
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	The author mentions "blood atonement killings by Danite Porter Rockwell."		The author mentions "blood atonement killings by Danite Porter Rockwell."
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	The author claims that there was a "burgeoning traffic of apostates now fleeing Zion" because of the Mountain Meadows affair and that this was "the largest emigration up to that time, overshadowing even the California gold rush of 1852."		The author claims that there was a "burgeoning traffic of apostates now fleeing Zion" because of the Mountain Meadows affair and that this was "the largest emigration up to that time, overshadowing even the California gold rush of 1852."
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	#*Aird, 197.		#Aird, 197.
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	{{propaganda\|There is no historical support for an exodus of people leaving Utah that even comes close to comparing to the California gold rush.}}		{{propaganda\|There is no historical support for an exodus of people leaving Utah that even comes close to comparing to the California gold rush.}}

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	According to "historian Polly Aird," the Parrish and Potter murders committed during the Mormon reformation were "the best documented case of killing for the sin of apostasy" and "involved the entire church reporting line from Brigham Young down."		According to "historian Polly Aird," the Parrish and Potter murders committed during the Mormon reformation were "the best documented case of killing for the sin of apostasy" and "involved the entire church reporting line from Brigham Young down."
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	Polly Aird, "Escape from Zion: The United States Army Escort of Mormon Apostates, 1859," ''Nevada Historical Society Quarterly'' 44/3 (Fall 2001): 196-237.		#Polly Aird, "Escape from Zion: The United States Army Escort of Mormon Apostates, 1859," ''Nevada Historical Society Quarterly'' 44/3 (Fall 2001): 196-237.
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	The author claims that there was a "burgeoning traffic of apostates now fleeing Zion" because of the Mountain Meadows affair and that this was "the largest emigration up to that time, overshadowing even the California gold rush of 1852."		The author claims that there was a "burgeoning traffic of apostates now fleeing Zion" because of the Mountain Meadows affair and that this was "the largest emigration up to that time, overshadowing even the California gold rush of 1852."
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	*Aird, 197.		#*Aird, 197.
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	Paiute chiefs said that they were not there at the beginning of the massacre and only became involved "under written orders from Brigham Young."		Paiute chiefs said that they were not there at the beginning of the massacre and only became involved "under written orders from Brigham Young."
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	U.S. House of Representatives, ''Utah and the Mormons'', 17.		#U.S. House of Representatives, ''Utah and the Mormons'', 17.
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	{{disinformation\|Paiute chiefs would have been unable to read any letter from Brigham Young, even if such had existed. <ref>{{FR-16-1-9}}</ref>		{{disinformation\|Paiute chiefs would have been unable to read any letter from Brigham Young, even if such had existed. <ref>{{FR-16-1-9}}</ref>

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