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	The event was referred to as the "blood feast of the Danites."		The event was referred to as the "blood feast of the Danites."
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	It is claimed that it is "inconceivable that a crime of this magnitude could have occurred" without being directly ordered by Brigham Young, and that "[v]irtually every federal officer who became involved in future investigations" of the massacre concluded that Brigham "personally ordered" the attack.		It is claimed that it is "inconceivable that a crime of this magnitude could have occurred" without being directly ordered by Brigham Young, and that "[v]irtually every federal officer who became involved in future investigations" of the massacre concluded that Brigham "personally ordered" the attack.
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	#*The author notes that Lee "would have carried out no orders which he thought would be contrary to the wishes of Brigham Young," citing Juanita Brooks, ''The Mountain Meadows Massacre'', p. 80.		#The author notes that Lee "would have carried out no orders which he thought would be contrary to the wishes of Brigham Young," citing Juanita Brooks, ''The Mountain Meadows Massacre'', p. 80.
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	The author claims that the murderers reported that a "divine revelation from Brigham Young" was read aloud which commanded them to attack the "cursed gentiles" and "attack them, disguised as Indians" and "leave none to tell the tale."		The author claims that the murderers reported that a "divine revelation from Brigham Young" was read aloud which commanded them to attack the "cursed gentiles" and "attack them, disguised as Indians" and "leave none to tell the tale."
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	#*C. V. Waite, ''The Mormon Prophet and His Harem'' (1866), 66.		#C. V. Waite, ''The Mormon Prophet and His Harem'' (1866), 66.
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	{{propaganda\|The author's source is a nineteenth-century anti-Mormon expose–hardly a reliable source. It is unsurprising that the murderers would attempt to claim they were "only following orders." "Her source for this alleged fact is to a sensational exposé common of the era: Catharine Van Valkenburg Waite's ''The Mormon Prophet and His Harem; Or, An Authentic History of Brigham Young, His Numerous Wives and Children''. Waite was an early suffragist married to a federal judge. She did not name names or provide sources in her book. Her stated objective was to reclaim the "suffering women of Utah." She is the sole source for this "revelation," which has no basis in historical fact." <ref>{{FR-16-1-9}}</ref>		{{propaganda\|The author's source is a nineteenth-century anti-Mormon expose–hardly a reliable source. It is unsurprising that the murderers would attempt to claim they were "only following orders." "Her source for this alleged fact is to a sensational exposé common of the era: Catharine Van Valkenburg Waite's ''The Mormon Prophet and His Harem; Or, An Authentic History of Brigham Young, His Numerous Wives and Children''. Waite was an early suffragist married to a federal judge. She did not name names or provide sources in her book. Her stated objective was to reclaim the "suffering women of Utah." She is the sole source for this "revelation," which has no basis in historical fact." <ref>{{FR-16-1-9}}</ref>
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	Helen Brockett "was told by her grandmother that her great-grandfather J.J. Davidson had been ordered by Brigham Young to go south to participate in the slaughter." It is claimed that "Young called in the Avenging angels and told them to use bows and arrows to shoot the people in the back after they were already dead to make it look like Indians did it."		Helen Brockett "was told by her grandmother that her great-grandfather J.J. Davidson had been ordered by Brigham Young to go south to participate in the slaughter." It is claimed that "Young called in the Avenging angels and told them to use bows and arrows to shoot the people in the back after they were already dead to make it look like Indians did it."
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	#*Author's telephone interview with Helen Brockett, October 18, 2002.		#Author's telephone interview with Helen Brockett, October 18, 2002.
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	The author claims that the Church invented the myth of "poisoned springs."		The author claims that the Church invented the myth of "poisoned springs."
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	#*The author states in an endnote on page 266 that "the poison tale was never told the same way twice," citing {{CriticalWork:Bagley:Blood of the Prophets\|pages=119}}		#The author states in an endnote on page 266 that "the poison tale was never told the same way twice," citing {{CriticalWork:Bagley:Blood of the Prophets\|pages=119}}
	* {{CrossRef:Bagley:Blood of the Prophets\|pages=119}}		* {{CrossRef:Bagley:Blood of the Prophets\|pages=119}}
	*The author also cites Forney to Greenwood, August 1859, "The Massacre at Mountain Meadows," ''Harper's.		*The author also cites Forney to Greenwood, August 1859, "The Massacre at Mountain Meadows," ''Harper's.
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	It is claimed that on September 1, 1857, Brigham enlisted the support of the Indians "against the wagon train."		It is claimed that on September 1, 1857, Brigham enlisted the support of the Indians "against the wagon train."
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	#*Journal of Dimick Baker Huntington, September 1, 1857.		#Journal of Dimick Baker Huntington, September 1, 1857.
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	*The author notes that Lee "would have carried out no orders which he thought would be contrary to the wishes of Brigham Young," citing Juanita Brooks, ''The Mountain Meadows Massacre'', p. 80.		#*The author notes that Lee "would have carried out no orders which he thought would be contrary to the wishes of Brigham Young," citing Juanita Brooks, ''The Mountain Meadows Massacre'', p. 80.
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	*C. V. Waite, ''The Mormon Prophet and His Harem'' (1866), 66.		#*C. V. Waite, ''The Mormon Prophet and His Harem'' (1866), 66.
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	{{propaganda\|The author's source is a nineteenth-century anti-Mormon expose–hardly a reliable source. It is unsurprising that the murderers would attempt to claim they were "only following orders." "Her source for this alleged fact is to a sensational exposé common of the era: Catharine Van Valkenburg Waite's ''The Mormon Prophet and His Harem; Or, An Authentic History of Brigham Young, His Numerous Wives and Children''. Waite was an early suffragist married to a federal judge. She did not name names or provide sources in her book. Her stated objective was to reclaim the "suffering women of Utah." She is the sole source for this "revelation," which has no basis in historical fact." <ref>{{FR-16-1-9}}</ref>		{{propaganda\|The author's source is a nineteenth-century anti-Mormon expose–hardly a reliable source. It is unsurprising that the murderers would attempt to claim they were "only following orders." "Her source for this alleged fact is to a sensational exposé common of the era: Catharine Van Valkenburg Waite's ''The Mormon Prophet and His Harem; Or, An Authentic History of Brigham Young, His Numerous Wives and Children''. Waite was an early suffragist married to a federal judge. She did not name names or provide sources in her book. Her stated objective was to reclaim the "suffering women of Utah." She is the sole source for this "revelation," which has no basis in historical fact." <ref>{{FR-16-1-9}}</ref>
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	Helen Brockett "was told by her grandmother that her great-grandfather J.J. Davidson had been ordered by Brigham Young to go south to participate in the slaughter." It is claimed that "Young called in the Avenging angels and told them to use bows and arrows to shoot the people in the back after they were already dead to make it look like Indians did it."		Helen Brockett "was told by her grandmother that her great-grandfather J.J. Davidson had been ordered by Brigham Young to go south to participate in the slaughter." It is claimed that "Young called in the Avenging angels and told them to use bows and arrows to shoot the people in the back after they were already dead to make it look like Indians did it."
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	*Author's telephone interview with Helen Brockett, October 18, 2002.		#*Author's telephone interview with Helen Brockett, October 18, 2002.
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	*The author states in an endnote on page 266 that "the poison tale was never told the same way twice," citing {{CriticalWork:Bagley:Blood of the Prophets\|pages=119}}		#*The author states in an endnote on page 266 that "the poison tale was never told the same way twice," citing {{CriticalWork:Bagley:Blood of the Prophets\|pages=119}}
	* {{CrossRef:Bagley:Blood of the Prophets\|pages=119}}		* {{CrossRef:Bagley:Blood of the Prophets\|pages=119}}
	*The author also cites Forney to Greenwood, August 1859, "The Massacre at Mountain Meadows," ''Harper's.		*The author also cites Forney to Greenwood, August 1859, "The Massacre at Mountain Meadows," ''Harper's.
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	*Journal of Dimick Baker Huntington, September 1, 1857.		#*Journal of Dimick Baker Huntington, September 1, 1857.
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	The author claims that Indians were not involved with the massacre; it was all Mormons.		The author claims that Indians were not involved with the massacre; it was all Mormons.
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	{{SourceDistortion}}: "Denton has deceived the reader with the way she uses the Hurt report. The Indians' first report to Hurt, from Indians not affiliated with the Paiutes, was that Indians were not responsible. This is the only quotation Denton uses. But Hurt was suspicious, and he investigated further. He found and reported the truth. Indians and Mormons committed the atrocity. Yet, because Hurt's final conclusions don't square with Denton's thesis, we are not told about them." <ref>{{FR-16-1-9}}</ref>		{{SourceDistortion}}: "Denton has deceived the reader with the way she uses the Hurt report. The Indians' first report to Hurt, from Indians not affiliated with the Paiutes, was that Indians were not responsible. This is the only quotation Denton uses. But Hurt was suspicious, and he investigated further. He found and reported the truth. Indians and Mormons committed the atrocity. Yet, because Hurt's final conclusions don't square with Denton's thesis, we are not told about them." <ref>{{FR-16-1-9}}</ref>

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	{{misinformation\|: "The Church" did not invent the "poisoned spring" myth. Some ''members of the Church'' who wished to justify their murders after the fact used claims about poisoning to excuse their deeds. (It may be that some sincerely believed the springs to have been poisoned, when anthrax was instead responsible for the deaths of livestock.) <ref>{{MMM1\|start=124–125}}</ref> In any case, the sincerity of belief that the springs were poisoned in no way justifies the massacre.		{{misinformation\| "The Church" did not invent the "poisoned spring" myth. Some ''members of the Church'' who wished to justify their murders after the fact used claims about poisoning to excuse their deeds. (It may be that some sincerely believed the springs to have been poisoned, when anthrax was instead responsible for the deaths of livestock.) <ref>{{MMM1\|start=124–125}}</ref> In any case, the sincerity of belief that the springs were poisoned in no way justifies the massacre.
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	{{~~HistoricalError}}~~: "The Church" did not invent the "poisoned spring" myth. Some ''members of the Church'' who wished to justify their murders after the fact used claims about poisoning to excuse their deeds. (It may be that some sincerely believed the springs to have been poisoned, when anthrax was instead responsible for the deaths of livestock.) <ref>{{MMM1\|start=124–125}}</ref> In any case, the sincerity of belief that the springs were poisoned in no way justifies the massacre.		{{misinformation\|: "The Church" did not invent the "poisoned spring" myth. Some ''members of the Church'' who wished to justify their murders after the fact used claims about poisoning to excuse their deeds. (It may be that some sincerely believed the springs to have been poisoned, when anthrax was instead responsible for the deaths of livestock.) <ref>{{MMM1\|start=124–125}}</ref> In any case, the sincerity of belief that the springs were poisoned in no way justifies the massacre.
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	{{propaganda\|This inflammatory language is unsourced, and provided without evidence.}}		{{propaganda\|This inflammatory language is unsourced, and provided without evidence.}}
	*{{~~Detail~~\|Mormonism and persecution/Danites\|l1=Danites}}		*{{Detail_old\|Mormonism and persecution/Danites\|l1=Danites}}
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	==Response to claim: 152 - It is claimed that it is "inconceivable that a crime of this magnitude could have occurred" without being directly ordered by Brigham Young==		==Response to claim: 152 - It is claimed that it is "inconceivable that a crime of this magnitude could have occurred" without being directly ordered by Brigham Young==
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	*The initial prosecution of those responsible for the murders failed because federal officials were so anxious to tie them to Brigham Young—but the evidence to do so did not exist.		*The initial prosecution of those responsible for the murders failed because federal officials were so anxious to tie them to Brigham Young—but the evidence to do so did not exist.
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	*{{~~Detail~~\|Mountain Meadows Massacre/Prosecution}}		*{{Detail_old\|Mountain Meadows Massacre/Prosecution}}
	*{{~~Detail~~\|Criticism of Mormonism/Books/One Nation Under Gods/Use of sources/Brigham Young ordered MMM\|l1=Brigham Young ordered Mountain Meadows Massacre?}}		*{{Detail_old\|Criticism of Mormonism/Books/One Nation Under Gods/Use of sources/Brigham Young ordered MMM\|l1=Brigham Young ordered Mountain Meadows Massacre?}}

	==Response to claim: 153 - The author claims that the murderers reported that a "divine revelation from Brigham Young" was read aloud which commanded them to attack the "cursed gentiles"==		==Response to claim: 153 - The author claims that the murderers reported that a "divine revelation from Brigham Young" was read aloud which commanded them to attack the "cursed gentiles"==
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	Brigham wrote a letter which commanded those in southern Utah to leave the immigrants alone.		Brigham wrote a letter which commanded those in southern Utah to leave the immigrants alone.
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	*{{~~Detail~~\|Mountain Meadows massacre/Brigham Young/Did Brigham order it/Brigham's letter mysteriously lost\|l1=Brigham Young's letter}}		*{{Detail_old\|Mountain Meadows massacre/Brigham Young/Did Brigham order it/Brigham's letter mysteriously lost\|l1=Brigham Young's letter}}
	*{{~~Detail~~\|Mountain Meadows massacre/Brigham Young/Did Brigham order it\|l1=Brigham Young did not order the Mountain Meadows Massacre}}		*{{Detail_old\|Mountain Meadows massacre/Brigham Young/Did Brigham order it\|l1=Brigham Young did not order the Mountain Meadows Massacre}}

	==Response to claim: 154-155 - Helen Brockett "was told by her grandmother that her great-grandfather J.J. Davidson had been ordered by Brigham Young to go south to participate in the slaughter"==		==Response to claim: 154-155 - Helen Brockett "was told by her grandmother that her great-grandfather J.J. Davidson had been ordered by Brigham Young to go south to participate in the slaughter"==
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	The author here relies on a fourth-hand account—something Brockett's grandmother said that her great-grandfather said that Brigham Young said. This is unpersuasive when contemporary evidence indicates that Brigham ordered the immigrants be allowed to pass unmolested.		The author here relies on a fourth-hand account—something Brockett's grandmother said that her great-grandfather said that Brigham Young said. This is unpersuasive when contemporary evidence indicates that Brigham ordered the immigrants be allowed to pass unmolested.
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	*{{~~Detail~~\|Mountain Meadows massacre/Brigham Young/Did Brigham order it/Brigham's letter mysteriously lost\|l1=Brigham Young's letter}}		*{{Detail_old\|Mountain Meadows massacre/Brigham Young/Did Brigham order it/Brigham's letter mysteriously lost\|l1=Brigham Young's letter}}
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	* {{BYUS\|author=Ronald W. Walker\|date=2003\|vol=42\|num=1\|start=139\|end=152\|article='Save the Emigrants': Joseph Clewes on the Mountain Meadows Massacre}} {{pdflink\|url=http://byustudies.byu.edu/Products/MoreInfoPage/MoreInfo.aspx?Type=7&ProdID=2083}}		* {{BYUS\|author=Ronald W. Walker\|date=2003\|vol=42\|num=1\|start=139\|end=152\|article='Save the Emigrants': Joseph Clewes on the Mountain Meadows Massacre}} {{pdflink\|url=http://byustudies.byu.edu/Products/MoreInfoPage/MoreInfo.aspx?Type=7&ProdID=2083}}

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	* {{SecondaryFact}}: the author here likely follows Will Bagley's ''Blood of the Prophets'' which likewise contains a [[Blood_of_the_Prophets:_Brigham_Young_and_the_Massacre_at_Mountain_Meadows#Raising allies?\|serious misreading]] of Huntington's journal.		* {{SecondaryFact}}: the author here likely follows Will Bagley's ''Blood of the Prophets'' which likewise contains a [[Blood_of_the_Prophets:_Brigham_Young_and_the_Massacre_at_Mountain_Meadows#Raising allies?\|serious misreading]] of Huntington's journal.
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	*{{~~Detail~~\|Criticism of Mormonism/Books/One_Nation_Under_Gods/Use_of_sources/Brigham_Young_ordered_MMM\|l1=Dimick Huntington Diary, 1 September 1857}}		*{{Detail_old\|Criticism of Mormonism/Books/One_Nation_Under_Gods/Use_of_sources/Brigham_Young_ordered_MMM\|l1=Dimick Huntington Diary, 1 September 1857}}

	==Response to claim: 159 - The author claims that Indians were not involved with the massacre; it was all Mormons==		==Response to claim: 159 - The author claims that Indians were not involved with the massacre; it was all Mormons==