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	*Dean C. Jessee, ''The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith'', 2nd ed., 297.		*Dean C. Jessee, ''The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith'', 2nd ed., 297.
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	*Kenneth W. Godfrey, “What Is the Significance of Zelph in the Study of Book of Mormon Geography?” ''Journal of Book of Mormon Studies'' 8, no. 2, 70–79		*Kenneth W. Godfrey, “What Is the Significance of Zelph in the Study of Book of Mormon Geography?” ''Journal of Book of Mormon Studies'' 8, no. 2, 70–79
	Brent Lee Metcalfe, “A Documentary Analysis of the Zelph Episode,” 1989 Sunstone Symposium.		Brent Lee Metcalfe, “A Documentary Analysis of the Zelph Episode,” 1989 Sunstone Symposium.
	Wilford Woodruff, Journal, [3 June] 1834, ~~LDS~~ Church Archives, Salt Lake City		Wilford Woodruff, Journal, [3 June] 1834, Church Archives, Salt Lake City
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	*{{s\|1\|Nephi\|20\|13-14}}: The "remnant of Jacob" to inherit the land from the Gentiles.		*{{s\|1\|Nephi\|20\|13-14}}: The "remnant of Jacob" to inherit the land from the Gentiles.
	*{{s\|\|Ether\|13\|2-11}}: A New Jerusalem to be built upon the land.		*{{s\|\|Ether\|13\|2-11}}: A New Jerusalem to be built upon the land.
	*{{s\|\|DC\|10\|48-51}}: "...my gospel, which I gave unto them that they might preach in their days, might come unto their brethren the Lamanites, and also all that had become Lamanites because of their dissensions."		*{{s\|\|D&C\|10\|48-51}}: "...my gospel, which I gave unto them that they might preach in their days, might come unto their brethren the Lamanites, and also all that had become Lamanites because of their dissensions."
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	The "white Lamanite" named Zelph.		The "white Lamanite" named Zelph.
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	*Donald Q. Cannon, “Zelph Revisited,” ''Regional Studies in Latter-day Saint History: Illinois'', 97–111		*Donald Q. Cannon, “Zelph Revisited,” ''Regional Studies in Latter-day Saint History: Illinois'', 97–111
	*Kenneth W. Godfrey, “The Zelph Story,” ''Brigham Young University Studies''		*Kenneth W. Godfrey, “The Zelph Story,” ''Brigham Young University Studies''

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	*The author states: "As BYU geneticist Michael Whiting stipulates, a hemispheric colonization model for the Book of Mormon 'is indeed incorrect' and 'appears falsified by current genetic evidence.'"		*The author states: "As BYU geneticist Michael Whiting stipulates, a hemispheric colonization model for the Book of Mormon 'is indeed incorrect' and 'appears falsified by current genetic evidence.'"
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	#*Michael F. Whiting, “DNA and the Book of Mormon: A Phylogenetic Perspective,” Journal of Book of Mormon Studies 12, no. 1 (2003): 28, 31. {{link\|url=http://mi.byu.edu/publications/jbms/?vol=12&num=1&id=311}}		#Michael F. Whiting, “DNA and the Book of Mormon: A Phylogenetic Perspective,” Journal of Book of Mormon Studies 12, no. 1 (2003): 28, 31. {{link\|url=http://mi.byu.edu/publications/jbms/?vol=12&num=1&id=311}}
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	#*{{s\|2\|Nephi\|1\|8–9}}		#{{s\|2\|Nephi\|1\|8–9}}
	*John C. Kunich, “Multiply Exceedingly: Book of Mormon Population Sizes,” ''New Approaches to the Book of Mormon: Explorations in Critical Methodology'', 261–62.		*John C. Kunich, “Multiply Exceedingly: Book of Mormon Population Sizes,” ''New Approaches to the Book of Mormon: Explorations in Critical Methodology'', 261–62.
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	*The author quotes 2 Nephi 1:10-11, to note that the Lord would bring others nations to "take away from them the lands of their possessions" and cause them to be "scattered and smitten" when they "dwindled in unbelief."		*The author quotes 2 Nephi 1:10-11, to note that the Lord would bring others nations to "take away from them the lands of their possessions" and cause them to be "scattered and smitten" when they "dwindled in unbelief."
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	{{misinformation\|The author seems to be assuming that this refers to other nations coming across the ocean to scatter and smite Lehi's people. Yet, this passage is completely consistent with others outside the land occupied by Lehi's people coming to take away the Nephites' lands when they became wicked. The Book of Mormon certainly describes many times that the Nephites descended into wickedness. Each time they were "scattered and smitten" by the Lamanites. If the descendants of Laman and Lemuel joined others who were in lands outside of Lehi's "promised land," this promise would be completely and adequately fulfilled. The "other nations" referred to in the scriptural passage could easily have existed ''on the American continents.''		{{misinformation\|The author seems to be assuming that this refers to other nations coming across the ocean to scatter and smite Lehi's people. Yet, this passage is completely consistent with others outside the land occupied by Lehi's people coming to take away the Nephites' lands when they became wicked. The Book of Mormon certainly describes many times that the Nephites descended into wickedness. Each time they were "scattered and smitten" by the Lamanites. If the descendants of Laman and Lemuel joined others who were in lands outside of Lehi's "promised land," this promise would be completely and adequately fulfilled. The "other nations" referred to in the scriptural passage could easily have existed ''on the American continents.''
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	*The author states that the "promised land" encompasses all of North America, since it must account for the prophesied arrival of British and European settlers, the coming forth of the Book of Mormon and the construction of a New Jerusalem.		*The author states that the "promised land" encompasses all of North America, since it must account for the prophesied arrival of British and European settlers, the coming forth of the Book of Mormon and the construction of a New Jerusalem.
	\|authorsources=<br>		\|authorsources=<br>
	#*1 Ne. 13:12–42; 3 Ne. 20:13–14, 22; 21:2–7, 22–24; Ether 13:2–11; D&C 10:48–51; 19:27; 84:2–5;		#1 Ne. 13:12–42; 3 Ne. 20:13–14, 22; 21:2–7, 22–24; Ether 13:2–11; D&C 10:48–51; 19:27; 84:2–5;
	*see Dan Vogel, ''Joseph Smith: The Making of a Prophet'' (Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 2004), 407–09.		*see Dan Vogel, ''Joseph Smith: The Making of a Prophet'' (Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 2004), 407–09.
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	*Many proudly proclaimed their Israelite lineage. The Book of Mormon reiterates this lineage many times.		*Many proudly proclaimed their Israelite lineage. The Book of Mormon reiterates this lineage many times.
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	*The author notes that "Book of Mormon readers are not told of a single Nephite or Lamanite who descended from anyone other than an Israelite," and that scholars attempt to mitigate this by claiming that others were adopted into the Abrahamic covenant or that the Nephite record is an ethnocentric "lineage history."		*The author notes that "Book of Mormon readers are not told of a single Nephite or Lamanite who descended from anyone other than an Israelite," and that scholars attempt to mitigate this by claiming that others were adopted into the Abrahamic covenant or that the Nephite record is an ethnocentric "lineage history."
	\|authorsources=<br>		\|authorsources=<br>
	#*John L. Sorenson, ''An Ancient American Setting for the Book of Mormon'' (1985), 50–56;		#John L. Sorenson, ''An Ancient American Setting for the Book of Mormon'' (1985), 50–56;
	*John L. Sorenson and Matthew Roper, “Before DNA,” ''Journal of Book of Mormon Studies'' 12, no. 1 (2003): 17–18;		*John L. Sorenson and Matthew Roper, “Before DNA,” ''Journal of Book of Mormon Studies'' 12, no. 1 (2003): 17–18;
	*Whiting, “DNA” (2003), 25–28, 31, 33–34.		*Whiting, “DNA” (2003), 25–28, 31, 33–34.
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	*The author states that neither the Jaredites nor the "Amerisraelites" ever mention indigenous "others."		*The author states that neither the Jaredites nor the "Amerisraelites" ever mention indigenous "others."
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	#*No source provided.		#No source provided.
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	*{{Detail\|Book of Mormon/Lamanites/Relationship to Amerindians}}		*{{Detail\|Book of Mormon/Lamanites/Relationship to Amerindians}}
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	*Joseph Smith taught that the Book of Mormon recounts the origin of Modern Amerindians.		*Joseph Smith taught that the Book of Mormon recounts the origin of Modern Amerindians.
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	*{{Detail\|Book of Mormon/Lamanites/Relationship to Amerindians}}		*{{Detail\|Book of Mormon/Lamanites/Relationship to Amerindians}}
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	*The author claims that apologists' response to Joseph's statements are that "prophets are fallible" and that Joseph "expressed or authorized divergent opinions about the Book of Mormon setting and peoples."		*The author claims that apologists' response to Joseph's statements are that "prophets are fallible" and that Joseph "expressed or authorized divergent opinions about the Book of Mormon setting and peoples."
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	#*No source provided.		#No source provided.
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	*{{Detail\|Book of Mormon/Geography/Statements/Nineteenth century/Joseph Smith's lifetime/Joseph Smith\|l1=Comprehensive list of statements related to Book of Mormon geography made by Joseph Smith, Jr.}}		*{{Detail\|Book of Mormon/Geography/Statements/Nineteenth century/Joseph Smith's lifetime/Joseph Smith\|l1=Comprehensive list of statements related to Book of Mormon geography made by Joseph Smith, Jr.}}
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	*Joseph stated that the Book of Mormon is a record of the forefathers of our western Tribes of Indians and that the Land of America is a promised land.		*Joseph stated that the Book of Mormon is a record of the forefathers of our western Tribes of Indians and that the Land of America is a promised land.
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	#*Joseph Smith to N. C. Saxton, 4 January 1833, ''Joseph Smith Letter Book'' 1, p. 17		#Joseph Smith to N. C. Saxton, 4 January 1833, ''Joseph Smith Letter Book'' 1, p. 17
	*Dean C. Jessee, ''The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith'', 2nd ed., 297.		*Dean C. Jessee, ''The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith'', 2nd ed., 297.
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	\|claim=The author claims that "the Book of Mormon teaches—that 'the Lamanites...are the principal ancestors of the American Indians.'"		\|claim=The author claims that "the Book of Mormon teaches—that 'the Lamanites...are the principal ancestors of the American Indians.'"
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	"Introduction," Book of Mormon (1981 edition).		#"Introduction," Book of Mormon (1981 edition).
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	{{misinformation\|This is based upon a phrase added as an introduction to the Book of Mormon in modern times. The 1830 Book of Mormon contains no such claim.}}		{{misinformation\|This is based upon a phrase added as an introduction to the Book of Mormon in modern times. The 1830 Book of Mormon contains no such claim.}}
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	*The author claims that LDS scholars have been led to "shrink and dilute" the Book of Mormon's "American Israelite" population as the result of DNA analysis showing that Native Americans have an Asian genetic signature.		*The author claims that LDS scholars have been led to "shrink and dilute" the Book of Mormon's "American Israelite" population as the result of DNA analysis showing that Native Americans have an Asian genetic signature.
	\|authorsources=		\|authorsources=<br>
	The author quotes a number of genetic studies.		#The author quotes a number of genetic studies.
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	{{misinformation\|The author argues that LDS scholars or apologists are "shrinking and diluting" their view on the Book of Mormon because they are being driven back in a rear-guard action by science. But, in fact, many LDS leaders and scholars argued for a restricted geography and small numeric contribution of Lehites before DNA was even discovered. These conclusions did not arise because of scientific "pressure," but because the reading of the Book of Mormon text required them.		{{misinformation\|The author argues that LDS scholars or apologists are "shrinking and diluting" their view on the Book of Mormon because they are being driven back in a rear-guard action by science. But, in fact, many LDS leaders and scholars argued for a restricted geography and small numeric contribution of Lehites before DNA was even discovered. These conclusions did not arise because of scientific "pressure," but because the reading of the Book of Mormon text required them.
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	*The author states: "As BYU geneticist Michael Whiting stipulates, a hemispheric colonization model for the Book of Mormon 'is indeed incorrect' and 'appears falsified by current genetic evidence.'"		*The author states: "As BYU geneticist Michael Whiting stipulates, a hemispheric colonization model for the Book of Mormon 'is indeed incorrect' and 'appears falsified by current genetic evidence.'"
	\|authorsources=		\|authorsources=<br>
	*Michael F. Whiting, “DNA and the Book of Mormon: A Phylogenetic Perspective,” Journal of Book of Mormon Studies 12, no. 1 (2003): 28, 31. {{link\|url=http://mi.byu.edu/publications/jbms/?vol=12&num=1&id=311}}		#*Michael F. Whiting, “DNA and the Book of Mormon: A Phylogenetic Perspective,” Journal of Book of Mormon Studies 12, no. 1 (2003): 28, 31. {{link\|url=http://mi.byu.edu/publications/jbms/?vol=12&num=1&id=311}}
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	*The fragments quoted by the author in context:		*The fragments quoted by the author in context:
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	And behold, it is wisdom that ''this land should be kept as yet from the knowledge of other nations''; for behold, many nations would overrun the land, that there would be no place for an inheritance. Wherefore, I, Lehi, have obtained a promise, that inasmuch as ''those whom the Lord God shall bring out of the land of Jerusalem'' shall keep his commandments, they shall prosper upon the face of this land; and ''they shall be kept from all other nations, that they may possess this land unto themselves'' . . . and there shall be none to molest them, nor to take away the land of their inheritance; and they shall dwell safely forever. {{s\|2\|Nephi\|1\|8-9}}		And behold, it is wisdom that ''this land should be kept as yet from the knowledge of other nations''; for behold, many nations would overrun the land, that there would be no place for an inheritance. Wherefore, I, Lehi, have obtained a promise, that inasmuch as ''those whom the Lord God shall bring out of the land of Jerusalem'' shall keep his commandments, they shall prosper upon the face of this land; and ''they shall be kept from all other nations, that they may possess this land unto themselves'' . . . and there shall be none to molest them, nor to take away the land of their inheritance; and they shall dwell safely forever. {{s\|2\|Nephi\|1\|8-9}}
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	*{{s\|2\|Nephi\|1\|8–9}}		#*{{s\|2\|Nephi\|1\|8–9}}
	*John C. Kunich, “Multiply Exceedingly: Book of Mormon Population Sizes,” ''New Approaches to the Book of Mormon: Explorations in Critical Methodology'', 261–62.		*John C. Kunich, “Multiply Exceedingly: Book of Mormon Population Sizes,” ''New Approaches to the Book of Mormon: Explorations in Critical Methodology'', 261–62.
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	*The author quotes 2 Nephi 1:10-11, to note that the Lord would bring others nations to "take away from them the lands of their possessions" and cause them to be "scattered and smitten" when they "dwindled in unbelief."		*The author quotes 2 Nephi 1:10-11, to note that the Lord would bring others nations to "take away from them the lands of their possessions" and cause them to be "scattered and smitten" when they "dwindled in unbelief."
	\|authorsources=		\|authorsources=<br>
	*{{s\|2\|Nephi\|1\|10-11}}		#*{{s\|2\|Nephi\|1\|10-11}}
	}}		}}
	{{misinformation\|The author seems to be assuming that this refers to other nations coming across the ocean to scatter and smite Lehi's people. Yet, this passage is completely consistent with others outside the land occupied by Lehi's people coming to take away the Nephites' lands when they became wicked. The Book of Mormon certainly describes many times that the Nephites descended into wickedness. Each time they were "scattered and smitten" by the Lamanites. If the descendants of Laman and Lemuel joined others who were in lands outside of Lehi's "promised land," this promise would be completely and adequately fulfilled. The "other nations" referred to in the scriptural passage could easily have existed ''on the American continents.''		{{misinformation\|The author seems to be assuming that this refers to other nations coming across the ocean to scatter and smite Lehi's people. Yet, this passage is completely consistent with others outside the land occupied by Lehi's people coming to take away the Nephites' lands when they became wicked. The Book of Mormon certainly describes many times that the Nephites descended into wickedness. Each time they were "scattered and smitten" by the Lamanites. If the descendants of Laman and Lemuel joined others who were in lands outside of Lehi's "promised land," this promise would be completely and adequately fulfilled. The "other nations" referred to in the scriptural passage could easily have existed ''on the American continents.''
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	*The author states that the "promised land" encompasses all of North America, since it must account for the prophesied arrival of British and European settlers, the coming forth of the Book of Mormon and the construction of a New Jerusalem.		*The author states that the "promised land" encompasses all of North America, since it must account for the prophesied arrival of British and European settlers, the coming forth of the Book of Mormon and the construction of a New Jerusalem.
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	*1 Ne. 13:12–42; 3 Ne. 20:13–14, 22; 21:2–7, 22–24; Ether 13:2–11; D&C 10:48–51; 19:27; 84:2–5;		#*1 Ne. 13:12–42; 3 Ne. 20:13–14, 22; 21:2–7, 22–24; Ether 13:2–11; D&C 10:48–51; 19:27; 84:2–5;
	*see Dan Vogel, ''Joseph Smith: The Making of a Prophet'' (Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 2004), 407–09.		*see Dan Vogel, ''Joseph Smith: The Making of a Prophet'' (Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 2004), 407–09.
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	*Many proudly proclaimed their Israelite lineage. The Book of Mormon reiterates this lineage many times.		*Many proudly proclaimed their Israelite lineage. The Book of Mormon reiterates this lineage many times.
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	*{{s\|\|Mosiah\|25\|13}}		#*{{s\|\|Mosiah\|25\|13}}
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	*The author notes that "Book of Mormon readers are not told of a single Nephite or Lamanite who descended from anyone other than an Israelite," and that scholars attempt to mitigate this by claiming that others were adopted into the Abrahamic covenant or that the Nephite record is an ethnocentric "lineage history."		*The author notes that "Book of Mormon readers are not told of a single Nephite or Lamanite who descended from anyone other than an Israelite," and that scholars attempt to mitigate this by claiming that others were adopted into the Abrahamic covenant or that the Nephite record is an ethnocentric "lineage history."
	\|authorsources=		\|authorsources=<br>
	*John L. Sorenson, ''An Ancient American Setting for the Book of Mormon'' (1985), 50–56;		#*John L. Sorenson, ''An Ancient American Setting for the Book of Mormon'' (1985), 50–56;
	*John L. Sorenson and Matthew Roper, “Before DNA,” ''Journal of Book of Mormon Studies'' 12, no. 1 (2003): 17–18;		*John L. Sorenson and Matthew Roper, “Before DNA,” ''Journal of Book of Mormon Studies'' 12, no. 1 (2003): 17–18;
	*Whiting, “DNA” (2003), 25–28, 31, 33–34.		*Whiting, “DNA” (2003), 25–28, 31, 33–34.
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	*The author states that neither the Jaredites nor the "Amerisraelites" ever mention indigenous "others."		*The author states that neither the Jaredites nor the "Amerisraelites" ever mention indigenous "others."
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	*Joseph Smith taught that the Book of Mormon recounts the origin of Modern Amerindians.		*Joseph Smith taught that the Book of Mormon recounts the origin of Modern Amerindians.
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	*The author claims that apologists' response to Joseph's statements are that "prophets are fallible" and that Joseph "expressed or authorized divergent opinions about the Book of Mormon setting and peoples."		*The author claims that apologists' response to Joseph's statements are that "prophets are fallible" and that Joseph "expressed or authorized divergent opinions about the Book of Mormon setting and peoples."
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	*No source provided.		#*No source provided.
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	*{{Detail\|Book of Mormon/Geography/Statements/Nineteenth century/Joseph Smith's lifetime/Joseph Smith\|l1=Comprehensive list of statements related to Book of Mormon geography made by Joseph Smith, Jr.}}		*{{Detail\|Book of Mormon/Geography/Statements/Nineteenth century/Joseph Smith's lifetime/Joseph Smith\|l1=Comprehensive list of statements related to Book of Mormon geography made by Joseph Smith, Jr.}}
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	*Joseph stated that the Book of Mormon is a record of the forefathers of our western Tribes of Indians and that the Land of America is a promised land.		*Joseph stated that the Book of Mormon is a record of the forefathers of our western Tribes of Indians and that the Land of America is a promised land.
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	*Joseph Smith to N. C. Saxton, 4 January 1833, ''Joseph Smith Letter Book'' 1, p. 17		#*Joseph Smith to N. C. Saxton, 4 January 1833, ''Joseph Smith Letter Book'' 1, p. 17
	*Dean C. Jessee, ''The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith'', 2nd ed., 297.		*Dean C. Jessee, ''The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith'', 2nd ed., 297.
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	The "white Lamanite" named Zelph.		The "white Lamanite" named Zelph.
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	*Donald Q. Cannon, “Zelph Revisited,” ''Regional Studies in Latter-day Saint History: Illinois'', 97–111		*Donald Q. Cannon, “Zelph Revisited,” ''Regional Studies in Latter-day Saint History: Illinois'', 97–111
	*Kenneth W. Godfrey, “The Zelph Story,” ''Brigham Young University Studies''		*Kenneth W. Godfrey, “The Zelph Story,” ''Brigham Young University Studies''

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	*{{s\|\|DC\|84\|2-5}}: Location of New Jerusalem in Missouri.		*{{s\|\|DC\|84\|2-5}}: Location of New Jerusalem in Missouri.
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	The author quotes a number of genetic studies.		The author quotes a number of genetic studies.
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	*The author argues that LDS scholars or apologists are "shrinking and diluting" their view on the Book of Mormon because they are being driven back in a rear-guard action by science. But, in fact, many LDS leaders and scholars argued for a restricted geography and small numeric contribution of Lehites before DNA was even discovered. These conclusions did not arise because of scientific "pressure," but because the reading of the Book of Mormon text required them.		{{misinformation\|The author argues that LDS scholars or apologists are "shrinking and diluting" their view on the Book of Mormon because they are being driven back in a rear-guard action by science. But, in fact, many LDS leaders and scholars argued for a restricted geography and small numeric contribution of Lehites before DNA was even discovered. These conclusions did not arise because of scientific "pressure," but because the reading of the Book of Mormon text required them.
	*{{~~Detail\|~~Book of Mormon geography~~/New World/~~Limited Geography ~~Theory\|l1=Limited geography theory~~}}		}}
			{{:Source:Roper:FR 16:2:Critics of the Book of Mormon have claimed that the limited geography is only a late, desperate attempt}}
			{{:Question: Was the Limited Geography model created in response to DNA claims?}}

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	\|claim=The author claims that "the Book of Mormon teaches—that 'the Lamanites...are the principal ancestors of the American Indians.'"		\|claim=The author claims that "the Book of Mormon teaches—that 'the Lamanites...are the principal ancestors of the American Indians.'"
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	*"Introduction," Book of Mormon (1981 edition).		"Introduction," Book of Mormon (1981 edition).
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	*This is based upon a phrase added as an introduction to the Book of Mormon.		{{misinformation\|This is based upon a phrase added as an introduction to the Book of Mormon in modern times. The 1830 Book of Mormon contains no such claim.}}
	*The 1830 Book of Mormon contains no such claim.		{{:Question: Why did the Church modify the introduction to the Book of Mormon from "principal ancestors" to "among the ancestors?"}}
	*{{~~Detail\|Search for the Truth DVD~~:~~DNA#Claim~~: ~~"The~~ introduction to the Book of Mormon ~~says after thousands of years all were destroyed except the Lamanites and they are the~~ principal ancestors ~~of the American Indians.~~" ~~- Pamela Robertson\|Are the Lamanites~~ the ~~principal~~ ancestors ~~of the American Indians?\|l1=Are the Lamanites the principal ancestors of the American Indians~~?}}

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	*{{s\|1\|Nephi\|20\|13-14}}: The "remnant of Jacob" to inherit the land from the Gentiles.		*{{s\|1\|Nephi\|20\|13-14}}: The "remnant of Jacob" to inherit the land from the Gentiles.
	*{{s\|\|Ether\|13\|2-11}}: A New Jerusalem to be built upon the land.		*{{s\|\|Ether\|13\|2-11}}: A New Jerusalem to be built upon the land.
	*{{s\|\|DC\|10\|48-51}}: "...my gospel, which I gave unto them that they might preach in their days, might come unto their brethren the Lamanites, and also all that had become Lamanites because of their dissensions."		*{{s\|\|D&C\|10\|48-51}}: "...my gospel, which I gave unto them that they might preach in their days, might come unto their brethren the Lamanites, and also all that had become Lamanites because of their dissensions."
	*{{s\|\|DC\|19\|27}}: "...the Jew, of whom the Lamanites are a remnant."		*{{s\|\|D&C\|19\|27}}: "...the Jew, of whom the Lamanites are a remnant."
	*{{s\|\|DC\|84\|2-5}}: Location of New Jerusalem in Missouri.		*{{s\|\|D&C\|84\|2-5}}: Location of New Jerusalem in Missouri.

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