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	{{misinformation\|This was never Church doctrine. Only the current prophet may declare Church doctrine.}}		{{misinformation\|This was never Church doctrine. Only the current prophet may declare Church doctrine.}}
	*{{~~Detail~~\|Blacks and the priesthood/The "curse of Cain" and "curse of Ham"\|l1=The "curse of Cain" and "curse of Ham"}}		*{{Detail_old\|Blacks and the priesthood/The "curse of Cain" and "curse of Ham"\|l1=The "curse of Cain" and "curse of Ham"}}
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	Fragments from the papyri owned by Joseph Smith were discovered. Aside from Facsimile #1, they do not contain the text of the Book of Abraham, and the Church has never claimed otherwise.		Fragments from the papyri owned by Joseph Smith were discovered. Aside from Facsimile #1, they do not contain the text of the Book of Abraham, and the Church has never claimed otherwise.

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	Joseph Smith gave a "false prophecy" that a temple would be built in Independence, Missouri.		Joseph Smith gave a "false prophecy" that a temple would be built in Independence, Missouri.
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	Joseph Smith receives revelation to send David Patten on a mission, but Patten is killed during a battle.		Joseph Smith receives revelation to send David Patten on a mission, but Patten is killed during a battle.
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	The authors claim that "historical records show Joseph Smith was sexually involved with women other than his legal wife Emma" long before the 1843 revelation was written.		The authors claim that "historical records show Joseph Smith was sexually involved with women other than his legal wife Emma" long before the 1843 revelation was written.
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	Oliver Cowdery reports in the ''Messenger and Advocate'' that Joseph Smith's age at the time of the First Vision was "the 15th year of our brother J. Smith Jr.'s age" and then corrects it to be "the 17th."		Oliver Cowdery reports in the ''Messenger and Advocate'' that Joseph Smith's age at the time of the First Vision was "the 15th year of our brother J. Smith Jr.'s age" and then corrects it to be "the 17th."
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	*''Messenger and Advocate'', Dec. 1834, Vol. 1, p. 42.		*''Messenger and Advocate'', Dec. 1834, Vol. 1, p. 42.
	*''Messenger and Advocate'', Feb. 1835, Vol. 1, p. 76.		*''Messenger and Advocate'', Feb. 1835, Vol. 1, p. 76.

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	The Book of Mormon states that David and Solomon's polygamy "was an abomination to God."		The Book of Mormon states that David and Solomon's polygamy "was an abomination to God."
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	Joseph Smith gave a "false prophecy" that a temple would be built in Independence, Missouri.		Joseph Smith gave a "false prophecy" that a temple would be built in Independence, Missouri.
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	The name of the Church was later changed to "The Church of the Latter Day Saints."		The name of the Church was later changed to "The Church of the Latter Day Saints."
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	#*David Whitmer, ''An Address to All Believers in Christ'', p. 73.		#David Whitmer, ''An Address to All Believers in Christ'', p. 73.
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	{{information\|This is correct. The name of the Church was only changed through revelation one time.		{{information\|This is correct. The name of the Church was only changed through revelation one time.
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	Joseph Smith receives revelation to send David Patten on a mission, but Patten is killed during a battle.		Joseph Smith receives revelation to send David Patten on a mission, but Patten is killed during a battle.
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	The authors claim that "historical records show Joseph Smith was sexually involved with women other than his legal wife Emma" long before the 1843 revelation was written.		The authors claim that "historical records show Joseph Smith was sexually involved with women other than his legal wife Emma" long before the 1843 revelation was written.
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	Joseph Smith denies polygamy.		Joseph Smith denies polygamy.
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	#*''History of the Church'' 6:411		#''History of the Church'' 6:411
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	The authors claim that Joseph killed two men at Carthage Jail, and that Joseph cannot be called a martyr because he fought for his life "with an illegally obtained weapon."		The authors claim that Joseph killed two men at Carthage Jail, and that Joseph cannot be called a martyr because he fought for his life "with an illegally obtained weapon."
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	#*''History of the Church'' 7:103.		#''History of the Church'' 7:103.
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	{{disinformation\|Joseph wounded two men, but they lived. It was erroneously believed for a period of time that they died. A martyr does not have to go to their death without defending themselves or their friends.}}		{{disinformation\|Joseph wounded two men, but they lived. It was erroneously believed for a period of time that they died. A martyr does not have to go to their death without defending themselves or their friends.}}
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	The [[Book of Abraham]] is claimed to have become the scriptural basis for denying the priesthood to Blacks.		The [[Book of Abraham]] is claimed to have become the scriptural basis for denying the priesthood to Blacks.
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	Brigham Young states, "And when all the rest of the children have received their blessing in the Holy Priesthood, then that curse shall be removed from the seed of Cain, and they will then come up and possess the priesthood, and receive all the blessings which we now are entitled to."		Brigham Young states, "And when all the rest of the children have received their blessing in the Holy Priesthood, then that curse shall be removed from the seed of Cain, and they will then come up and possess the priesthood, and receive all the blessings which we now are entitled to."
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	{{propaganda\|Brigham was wrong in his opinion. Prophets are not infallible, nor are they immune to their own opinions.		{{propaganda\|Brigham was wrong in his opinion. Prophets are not infallible, nor are they immune to their own opinions.
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	John Taylor is claimed to have provided "New First Vision information," when he stated, "None of them was right, just as it was when the Prophet Joseph asked the angel which of the sects was right that he might join it. The answer was that none of them are right....the angel merely told him to join none of them that none of them were right"		John Taylor is claimed to have provided "New First Vision information," when he stated, "None of them was right, just as it was when the Prophet Joseph asked the angel which of the sects was right that he might join it. The answer was that none of them are right....the angel merely told him to join none of them that none of them were right"
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	#*{{JDfairwiki\|author=John Taylor\|vol=20\|disc=19\|start=167}}		#{{JDfairwiki\|author=John Taylor\|vol=20\|disc=19\|start=167}}
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	The "Oath of Vengeance" is removed from the temple ceremony.		The "Oath of Vengeance" is removed from the temple ceremony.
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	#*''Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought'', vol. 20, no. 4, p. 55.		#''Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought'', vol. 20, no. 4, p. 55.
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	{{information\|The "Oath of Vengeance" was eventually removed from the temple ceremony.		{{information\|The "Oath of Vengeance" was eventually removed from the temple ceremony.
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	Joseph Fielding Smith, who the authors note "would become the tenth prophet," expresses his opinion on the "Curse of Cain" as it was applied to Blacks.		Joseph Fielding Smith, who the authors note "would become the tenth prophet," expresses his opinion on the "Curse of Cain" as it was applied to Blacks.
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	#*''The Way to Perfection'', p. 101.		#''The Way to Perfection'', p. 101.
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