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=What are the Hurlbut affidavits?=
==The Hurlbut affidavits are a collection of affidavits from Joseph Smith’s neighbors which claim that the Smith family possessed a number of character flaws==

Many critics cite a collection of affidavits from Joseph Smith’s neighbors which claim that the Smith family possessed a number of character flaws. These affidavits were collected by Doctor Philastus Hurlbut ("Doctor" was his first name, not a title).<ref>"Doctor" was not a title&mdash;It was Hurlbut's actual given name.</ref> Hurlbut had been excommunicated from the Church on charges of "unvirtuous conduct with a young lady," <ref>Benjamin Winchester, ''The origin of the Spalding story, concerning the Manuscript Found; with a short biography of Dr. P. Hulbert, the originator of the same; and some testimony adduced, showing it to be a sheer fabrication, so far as in connection with the Book of Mormon is concerned.'' (Philadelphia: Brown, Bicking & Guilbert, Printers, 1834), p. 5.</ref> and for threatening the life of the Prophet.

#There are many statements from Joseph's contemporaries attesting to his good character&mdash;These people did not sign sworn affidavits, but their accounts are recorded in their journals and histories.
#It is also important to note that none of these statements regarding Joseph Smith, Jr. was a firsthand account from the Prophet himself, but instead represent second or third-hand accounts. It is interesting that Fawn Brodie and other modern anti-Mormons readily dismiss the affidavits supporting the Spalding theory (which has since been [[Book of Mormon/Authorship theories/Spalding manuscript|discredited]]), suggesting the Hurlbut "prompted" those making statements, yet accepts without question the affidavits attesting to the bad character of Joseph Smith and his family. 
#Finally, Hurlbut's motive in collecting the affidavits is a factor. The Hurlbut affidavits were collected by a man who not only had a grudge to settle with the Church, but who had actually been brought before a judge for issuing a death threat against Joseph Smith, Jr. His family had likewise lost a court case brought by the Smiths, and young Joseph's testimony played a significant role in their victory.  (This occurred despite the Hurlbuts being more wealthy and prominent in the community than the poverty-stricken Smiths.)

==Hurlbut had been hostile to the Smith family long before he collected his affidavits==

Hurlbut's hostility to the Smiths may have been of long date.  In 1819, the Smiths sued a local family of Hurlbuts over the sale of a pair of horses and some work they had done for him.  (Aside from the name, it is not known if there was a family connection.) One author explains:

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Joseph Smith's introduction to the legal system came at an early age.  His father and oldest brother, Alvin, initiated a lawsuit in January 1819 against Jeremiah Hurlbut arising from his sale of a pair of horses to the Smiths for $65.  The Smith boys had been working for Hurlbut to both pay down the $65 obligation and for other goods the previous summer.  Twelve witnesses were called during the trial, including Hyrum and Joseph Smith Jr.  Under New York law, being just thirteen, Joseph's testimony about the work he had performed was admissible only after the court found him competent.  His testimony proved credible and the court record indicates that ever item that he testified about was included in the damages awarded to the Smiths.  Although Hurlbut appealed the case, no records have survived noting the final disposition of that case; perhaps it was settled out of court.  The significance of this case is not limited to the fact that a New York judge found the young Joseph, just a year prior to his [[Joseph Smith's First Vision|First Vision]], to be competent and credible as a witness.  Also, the suit being brought against a prominent Palmyra family and involving two other prominent community leaders as sureties on appeal may have contributed to Joseph Smith Jr.'s memory of his family's estrangement from much of the Palmyra community....

Under applicable New York law, "qualified citizens" [for jury duty] were limited to male inhabitants of the county where the trial was being held between the ages of twenty-one and sixty; and who at the time had personal property in the amount of not less that $250 or real property in the county with a value of not less than $250.  In the rural community of Palmyra this effectively meant that those qualified to be on the jury would be the more affluent and prominent men of the area.  Ironically, none of the Smiths would have qualified to be a juror.

The trial was held on February 6, 1819.  Twelve jurors were impaneled, all men and property owners.  The Smiths called five witnesses, Hurlbut [the farmer they were suing] seven.  Both Joseph Jr. and Hyrum were called to testify.  This appears to be young Joseph's first direct interaction with the judicial [130] process.  He had turned thirteen years old a month and a half previously.  New York law and local practice permitted the use of child testimony, subject to the court's discretion to determine the witness' competency.  The test for competency required a determination that the witness was of 'sound mind and memory.'  A New York 1803 summary of the law for justices of the peace notes that 'all persons of sound mind and memory, and who have arrived at years of discretion, except such as are legally interested, or have been rendered infamous, may be improved as witnesses.'  This determination of competency rested within the discretion of the judge....

From the record it appears that Judge Spear found Joseph Jr. competent, and he indeed did testify during the trial.  This is evident in a review of the List of Services that was part of the court file.  Joseph Jr.'s testimony would have been required to admit those services he personally performed....<ref>{{Periodical:Walker:Joseph Smith's Introduction to the Law|pages=129-130}}</ref>
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==Hurlbut's collection of the statements was made at the request of an anti-Mormon committee in Kirtland, Ohio==

At any rate, Hurlbut's later collection of statements was made at the request of an anti-Mormon committee in Kirtland, Ohio.<ref>{{CHC1 | vol=1|start=41}}</ref> According to B.H. Roberts:

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It was simply a matter of "muck raking" on Hurlbut's part. Every idle story, every dark insinuation which at that time could be thought of and unearthed was pressed into service to gratify this man's personal desire for revenge, and to aid the enemies of the Prophet in their attempt to destroy his influence and overthrow the institution then in process of such remarkable development.<ref>{{CHC1 | vol=1|start=41}}</ref> 
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==Hurlbut was unable to publish the affidavits himself after his trial for making death threats against Joseph Smith, so he sold them to E.D. Howe for publication in his book ''Mormonism Unvailed''==

Hurlbut was unable to publish the affidavits himself after his trial for making death threats against Joseph Smith, Jr. (And, it is possible that his family's animus dated back far longer.)  He sold his material to Eber D. Howe, who published it in his anti-Mormon book ''Mormonism Unvailed'' in 1834. In addition to the affidavits attacking the character of the Smith family, Hurlbut gathered statements from the family and neighbors of Solomon Spalding in order to "prove" that Spalding's unpublished manuscript was the source for the Book of Mormon. ''Mormonism Unvailed'' contained the first presentation of the [[Book of Mormon and Spaulding manuscript|Spalding theory]] of ''Book of Mormon'' origin. Some critics, such as [[Fawn McKay Brodie|Fawn Brodie]], are selective in their acceptance of Hurlbut's affidavits&mdash;They readily accept affidavits that attack the character of the Smith family, yet admit that some "judicious prompting" by Hurlbut may have been involved in those affidavits that were gathered to support the Spalding theory.<ref>Fawn M. Brodie, ''[[No Man Knows My History: The Life of Joseph Smith]]'' (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1945), 446&ndash;447.</ref>

==E.D. Howe thought that Joseph was "lazy," "indolent" and "superstitious"==

Howe's bias is evident throughout the book. He introduces the Smith family with the following:

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All who became intimate with them during this period, unite in representing the general character of old Joseph and wife, the parents of the pretended Prophet, as lazy, indolent, ignorant and superstitious&mdash;having a firm belief in ghosts and witches; the telling of fortunes; pretending to believe that the earth was filled with hidden treasures, buried there by Kid or the Spaniards.<ref>Eber D. Howe, ''Mormonism Unvailed'' (Painesville, OH: Telegraph Press, 1834), p. 11.</ref>
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=What do the Hurlbut affidavits claim about the Smith family's character and reliability?=
==The affidavits claimed that the Smith family was "lazy" and "worthless" and "destitute of moral character"==

A number of individuals signed the following statement, which claims that Joseph Smith's family was "destitute of moral character." This, of course, all occurred several years after the publication of the Book of Mormon. the statement appears in E.D. Howe's anti-Mormon book ''Mormonism Unvailed'' in 1834:
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We, the undersigned, have been acquainted with the Smith family, for a number of years, while they resided near this place, and we have no hesitation in saying, that we consider them destitute of that moral character, which ought to entitle them to the confidence of any community. They were particularly famous for visionary projects, spent much of their time in digging for money which they pretended was hid in the earth; and to this day, large excavations may be seen in the earth, not far from their residence, where they used to spend their time in digging for hidden treasures. Joseph Smith, Senior, and his son Joseph, were in particular, considered entirely destitute of moral character, and addicted to vicious habits. 

Martin Harris was a man who had acquired a handsome property, and in matters of business his word was considered good; but on moral and religious subjects, he was perfectly visionary&mdash;sometimes advocating one sentiment, and sometimes another. And in reference to all with whom we were acquainted, that have embraced Mormonism from this neighborhood, we are compeled to say, were very visionary, and most of them destitute of moral character, and without influence in this community; and this may account why they were permitted to go on with their impositions undisturbed. It was not supposed that any of them were possessed of sufficient character or influence to make any one believe their book or their sentiments, and we know not of a single individual in this vicinity that puts the least confidence in their pretended revelations.<ref>''Mormonism Unvailed'', 261-262.</ref>
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==Joseph Smith responded direct to the accusations against his character in December 1834==
Joseph Smith published the following response in the ''Messenger and Advocate'' in December 1834:
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During this time, as is common to most, or all youths, I fell into many vices and follies; but as my accusers are, and have been forward to accuse me of being guilty of gross and outrageous violations of the peace and good order of the community, I take the occasion to remark, that, though, as I have said above, "as is common to most, or all youths, I fell into many vices and follies," I have not, neither can it be sustained, in truth, been guilty of wronging or injuring any man or society of men; and those imperfections to which I allude, and for which I have often had occasion to lament, were a light, and too often, vain mind, exhibiting a foolish and trifling conversation.

This being all, and the worst, that my accusers can substantiate against my moral character, I wish to add, that it is not without a deep feeling of regret that I am thus called upon in answer to my own conscience, to fulfill a duty I owe to myself, as well as to the cause of truth, in making this public confession of my former uncircumspect walk, and unchaste conversation: and more particularly, as I often acted in violation of those holy precepts which I knew came from God. But as the "Articles and Covenants" of this church are plain upon this particular point, I do not deem it important to proceed further. I only add, that (I do not, nor never have, pretended to be any other than a man "subject to passion," and liable, without the assisting grace of the Savior, to deviate from that perfect path in which all men are commanded to walk!)<ref>{{MAfairwiki|author=Joseph Smith|vol=1|num=3|start=40|date=December 1834}}</ref>
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==If members of the Smith family had been liars, immoral, and "addicted to vicious habits," Lucy, Hyrum and Samuel would have been unable to retain their membership in the Western Presbyterian Church until 1830==

Milton V. Backman wrote:

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If the belittling statements by men who supposedly were acquainted with the Smith family were correct, and if members of the family had been liars, immoral, and "addicted to vicious habits," Lucy, Hyrum and Samuel would have been unable to retain their membership in the Western Presbyterian Church until 1830. In that era excommunications were frequent in most congregations, including the Presbyterian society of Palmyra. Individuals judged guilty of immorality, profanity, lying, drunkenness, gambling, and other such sins were excommunicated from this society. The reason members of the Smith family were dismissed from the Lord's Supper in the spring of 1830 was not because of any of the above charges but only because they desired to withdraw their membership and had neglected to attend church for a year and a half.<ref>Milton V. Backman, Jr., ''Joseph Smith's First Vision: Confirming Evidences and Contemporary Accounts'', 2d ed. rev. (Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1980): 120.  Backman cites Session Records, Western Presbyterian Church, II, 11-13, 34, 36, 39, 42 and Appendix K.</ref>
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==Contrast the accusations against the achievements of the family during the few years of their residence in Palmyra==

B.H. Roberts contrasts the achievements of the Smith family with the accusations made against them:

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Against this large collection of evil report and false interpretation of the character of the Smiths while at Palmyra, prompted as it was by prejudice and collected by malice, the evidence of accomplished fact, and the subsequent lives of the family may be opposed. Take for example the achievements of the family during the few years of their residence in Palmyra. They arrived there penniless, as all admit, with nothing but their bare hands with which to help themselves. Yet in a few years they built two homes in the wilderness; they cleared sixty acres of heavy timber land, and converted it into a tillable farm. In addition to their farming and gardening, they had a sugar orchard of from twelve to fifteen hundred maple trees, from which they gathered the sap and converted it into syrup or sugar. To aid in making the annual payments upon their farm, as well as to help sustain the family until the farm could be made productive, they took an occasional day's work among the neighboring farmers or the Palmyra village folk, sometimes engaged to dig a well, or harvest a field of grain. It is conceded, in the main, that they did all this; and one marvels in the face of it that the charge of laziness and thriftlessness should be made. But the wonder grows when to all this is to be added the stories of the affidavits about the Smith's "money digging" enterprises. "They * * * spent much of their time in digging for money which they pretended was hid in the earth, and to this day large excavations may be seen in the earth not far from their residence, where they used to spend their time digging for hidden treasures." fn Truly if the half of what is told in the affidavits about these exploits, usually carried on at night, is to be believed, then it would be utterly impossible to believe the Smiths to be idle or habitually lazy.<ref>{{CHC | vol=1|start=40|end=41}}</ref>
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=What did Henry Harris claim about Joseph Smith in the Hurlbut affidavits?=
==Henry Harris claimed that Joseph was lazy, and that he was required to be married in order to see the plates==
In the anti-Mormon book ''Mormonism Unvailed'', Henry Harris had this to say about Joseph Smith:
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Joseph Smith, Jr. the pretended Prophet, used to pretend to tell fortunes; he had a stone which he used to put in his hat, by means of which he professed to tell people's fortunes.<ref>E.D. Howe, ''Mormonism Unvailed'' (1834) 251-252.</ref>
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Harris made the following assertions:
*Claimed that the Smith family "labored very little."
*Claimed that the Smith family primarily "dug for money."
*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Jr. "pretended to tell fortunes."
*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Jr. "he had a stone which he used to put in his hat, by means of which he professed to tell people's fortunes."
*Claimed that Joseph was required to be married in order to obtain the plates.
*Claimed that Joseph and Martin Harris (and others) "were regarded by the community in which they lived, as a lying and indolent set of men and no confidence could be placed in them."
*Claimed that "He said it was revealed to him, that no one must see the plates but himself and wife [Emma]."

Harris claimed to have conversed with Joseph Smith regarding the plates:
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After he pretended to have found the gold plates, I had a conversation with him, and asked him where he found them and how he come to know where they were. He said he had a revelation from God that told him they were hid in a certain hill and he looked in his stone and saw them in the place of deposit; that an angel appeared, and told him he could not get the plates until he was married, and that when he saw the woman that was to be his wife, he should know her, and she would know him. He then went to Pennsylvania, got his wife, and they both went together and got the gold plates&mdash;he said it was revealed to him, that no one must see the plates but himself and wife.<ref>E.D. Howe, ''Mormonism Unvailed'' (1834) 251-252.</ref>  
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==Responses to Harris' claims==

* The claim that the Smith's were lazy and rarely worked it clearly false&mdash;their farm and its improvements was worth more than most of their neighbors.
* Many testified to how diligent a worker Joseph was.
* Martin Harris was respected and admired greatly&mdash;until he became associated with the Book of Mormon.  He was otherwise trusted and well-regarded, which is why critics found his participation so baffling.
* Emma testified she never saw the plates; the claim about her and Joseph seeing them is thus false.

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=What did Parley Chase claim about Joseph Smith in the Hurlbut affidavits?=
===Parley Chase claimed that the Smiths were lazy, intemperate that they "boasted of their skill" at lying===

Parley Chase made the following claims about the Smith family on 2 December 1833, three years after the publication of the Book of Mormon:
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I was acquainted with the family of Joseph Smith, Sen., both before and since they became Mormons, and feel free to state that not one of the male members of the Smith family were entitled to any credit, whatsoever. They were lazy, intemperate and worthless men, very much addicted to lying. In this they frequently boasted of their skill. Digging for money was their principal employment. In regard to their Gold Bible speculation, they scarcely ever told two stories alike. The Mormon Bible is said to be a revelation from God, through Joseph Smith Jr., his Prophet, and this same Joseph Smith Jr. to my knowledge, bore the reputation among his neighbors of being a liar. The foregoing statement can be corroborated by all his former neighbors.<ref>E.D. Howe, "The Testimony of Parley Chase," ''Mormonism Unvailed'' (1834).</ref>
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==Hugh Nibley: "Skillful liars don't boast about it"==

Hugh Nibley notes: 
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"Frequently"? A liar's "skill"...consists in not being recognized as a liar. Skillful liars don't boast about it.<ref>{{Nibley11_1|start=105}}</ref>
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=What did Barton Stafford claim about Joseph Smith in the Hurlbut affidavits?=
===Barton Stafford claimed that Joseph Smith, Sr. was a "drunkard"===

*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Sr. was a "drunkard."
*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Jr. was "addicted to intemperance."

==John Stafford, on the other hand, said that it was common then for everybody to drink, and to have drink in the field==

John Stafford, eldest son of [[#William Stafford|William Stafford]], was later asked "What was the character of [Joseph] Smith [Jr.], as to his drinking?"  Replied Stafford, "It was common then for everybody to drink, and to have drink in the field; one time Joe, while working for some one after he was married, drank too much boiled cider.  He came in with his shirt torn."  When asked if this meant Joseph had been drunk and fighting, Stafford insisted, "No; he had been scuffling with some of the boys. Never saw him fight; have known him to scuffle...." <ref>William H. Kelly, "The Hill Cumorah, and the Book of Mormon," ''Saints' Herald'' 28 (1 June 1881): 167; cited in {{EarlyMormonDocs1|vol=2|start=121}}</ref>  Thus, while Joseph likely drank (as did everyone, a point which the affidavits gloss over) to describe him as 'addicted to intemperance' is likely a gross exaggeration.  John Stafford seems to have remembered this event because it was remarkable and fairly minor&mdash;hardly the sign of Joseph being perpetually drunk.
* The lack of other claims in the affidavits that Joseph Jr. was a drunk is also telling&mdash;this would have been widely known and widely claimed in the affidavits if true.

=What did David Stafford claim about Joseph Smith in the Hurlbut affidavits?=
==David Stafford claimed that Oliver Cowdery was a "worthless person" who was "not to be trusted"==

*That Joseph Smith, Sr. was a "drunkard," a "liar," and a "gambler."
*That the "general employment" of the Smith family was "money digging" and "fortune telling."
*That Oliver Cowdery was a "worthless person" who was "not to be trusted."

==John Stafford, on the other hand, stated that Oliver Cowdery was a man of good character==

John Stafford, [[#William Stafford|William Stafford's]] eldest son, would later say that Oliver Cowdery "taught school on the Canandaigua road, where the stone school-house now stands...Cowdery was a man of good character." <ref>William H. Kelly, "The Hill Cumorah, and the Book of Mormon," ''Saints' Herald'' 28 (1 June 1881): 167; cited in {{EarlyMormonDocs1|vol=2|start=123}}</ref>

=What did Willard Chase claim about Joseph Smith in the Hurlbut affidavits?=
==Willard Chase claimed that he discovered Joseph's seer stone, and that it belonged to him==
Willard Chase and Joseph Smith were digging a well together when one of Joseph's seer stones was discovered. When it became known that Joseph was able to use the stone, Chase later claimed that Joseph had stolen it from him.

*Claimed that he discovered Joseph Smith's seer stone.
*Claimed that the seer stone rightfully belonged to Chase.

==Willard Chase claimed that Joseph Smith, Sr. told him that Moroni appeared in the form of a toad==
Chase claimed that the Prophet's father told him that certain "magical" practices had to be performed in order for Joseph to obtain the plates.

*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Sr. told him that Joseph Jr. removed the plates from the stone box, set them on the ground, and that they went back into the stone box on their own.
*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Sr. told him that Joseph Jr. was required to wear certain clothes and perform certain actions in order to obtain the plates.
*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Sr. told him that the angel Moroni appeared in the form of a toad.

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=What did Peter Ingersoll claim about Joseph Smith in the Hurlbut affidavits?=
==Peter Ingersoll claimed that the Smiths' "general employment" was money digging==

*Claimed that the Smith family's general employment was "digging for money."
*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Sr. taught him to use a divining rod.
*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Sr. and Alvin Smith used a stone in a hat to see things.
*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Sr., was engaged in "divination."

The Smith farm was improved to the point that it was worth more than 9 out of 10 farms in the region.<ref>Enders, 220.</ref> Given that the Smiths' property was worth more than most of their neighbors, it is difficult to credit the after-the-fact claims by some neighbors in the Hurlbut affidavits that the Smiths were lazy ne'er-do-wells who spent all of their time "money digging."

==Ingersoll claimed that Joseph admitted to his father-in-law that he was a fraud==

*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Jr. admitted to his father-in-law that he only pretended to be able to see things in the stone.
*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Jr. fooled his family into thinking that a frock full of sand was the "Gold Bible."
*Claimed that Joseph told his family that nobody could see the "Gold Bible" and live. 

On the threat that no one could see the "gold bible" and live, see: [[Viewing gold plates would result in death]]

==Ingersoll claimed that the story of the gold plates was created as a joke==

*Claimed that Joseph made up the story of the gold plates on the spot, after which he is supposed to have said, "I have got the damned fools fixed, and will carry out the fun." However, Ingersoll is discredited on his claim that Joseph made the story of the "gold bible" up on the spot as a way to have "fun" with his family. Joseph was telling various people about his Moroni visits well before recovering the plates (see for example various Knight family recollections). Note also that the name "Moroni" appears in the claim made by [[The Hurlbut affidavits#Lemon Copley|Lemon Copley]].
*Claimed that Joseph told him that "he had no such book, and believed there never was any such book."
*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Sr. said that there had been a book found in a hollow tree in Canada that described the "first settlement of this country before it was discovered by Columbus."

It is very difficult to believe that Joseph would have privately confided to Ingersoll that the plates didn't exist, when he told ''everyone else'' that they did.

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=What did William Stafford claim about Joseph Smith in the Hurlbut affidavits?=
==William Stafford claimed that Joseph could see "spirits" guarding treasures==
(uncle to C.R. Stafford)

*Claimed that the family of Joseph Smith, Sr. devoted a "great part of their time" to "digging for money."
*Claimed that he was told that Joseph Smith, Jr. could see "large caves" in "nearly all the hills in this part of New York."
*Claimed that Joseph could see "spirits" guarding great treasures.
*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Sr. told him that treasure could "sink" into the ground.
*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Sr. took one of his sheep on the pretense of using it to search for money by cutting its throat.
*Claimed that Joseph promised to show him the gold plates.

==The claim that the Smiths were lazy is belied by objective financial data showing them to be more hard-working than most of their neighbors==

The claim that the Smiths were lazy is belied by objective financial data showing them to be more hard-working than most of their neighbors.  The attacks on their industry date from after they had become notorious for the Book of Mormon and the Church, and probably spring from religious hostility more than truth.

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==William Stafford's story contradicts Peter Ingersoll's story==

William Stafford's claim that Joseph promised to show him the gold plates directly contradicts Peter Ingersoll's claim that Joseph confided to him that there were no plates.

Stafford claimed that "The two Josephs and Hiram, promised to show me the plates, after the book of Mormon was translated. But, afterwards, they pretended to have received an express commandment, forbidding them to show the plates."<ref>"Testimony of William Stafford," ''Mormonism Unvailed'', 240.</ref>

Ingersol,on the other hand, said that Joseph confided to him that "he had no such book, and believed there never was any such book."<ref>"Testimony of William Stafford," ''Mormonism Unvailed'', 236.</ref>

==Stafford's oldest son John: "I have heard that story [about the black sheep] but don't think my father was there at the time they say Smith got the sheep"==

Stafford's oldest son John would later say "I have heard that story [about the black sheep] but don't think my father was there at the time they say Smith got the sheep.  I don't know anything about it....They never stole one [a sheep], I am sure; they may have got one sometime....I don't think it [the story of the sheep] is true.  I would have heard more about it, that is true." <ref>William H. Kelly, "The Hill Cumorah, and the Book of Mormon," ''Saints' Herald'' 28 (1 June 1881): 167; cited in {{EarlyMormonDocs|vol=2|start=121|end=122}}  The material removed by ellipses consists of questions being asked by the interviewer.</ref>

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=What did the Hurlbut affidavits say about Martin Harris?=
==Lucy and Abigail Harris claimed that Martin Harris said that Mormonism was false and that he could "make money out of it"==

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===Abigail Harris (28 Nov. 1833)===
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*Claimed that Martin Harris said regarding Mormonism: "'''What if it is a lie'''; if you will let me alone '''I will make money out of it!'''"
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*Abigail embellishes her version of what she heard by implying that Martin Harris "admitted" that Mormonism was a lie.
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===Lucy Harris (29 Nov. 1833)===
(Wife of Martin Harris)
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*Claimed that Martin Harris said that he could make money out of Mormonism, and that "if you would let me alone, '''I could make money by it.'''"
*Claimed that Martin Harris "has whipped, kicked, and turned me out of the house."
*Claimed that Martin Harris may or may not (though clearly using language that favors the former) have had an affair with a neighbor's wife (a "Mrs. Haggard"). She wrote: "If his intentions were evil, the Lord will judge him accordingly, but if good, he did not mean to let his left hand know what his right hand did."
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*Despite the fact that Lucy Harris makes no mention of the lost 116 pages of manuscript from the ''Book of Mormon'', Fawn Brodie in her book [[No Man Knows My History: The Life of Joseph Smith]] actually concludes that Harris beat his wife in order to get her to divulge what she had done with the lost 116 pages of manuscript.
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==Lucy and Abigail Harris are the only two individuals who claimed that Martin Harris was hoping to make money from Mormonism==

It is interesting to note the similarity between the testimony for both women. It is more interesting however, to note how Abigail Harris has added the phrase "What if it is a lie," while Martin's wife, Lucy, did not. Abigail states that she stated what she did "for the good of all mankind". If Martin actually believed that Mormonism was a lie, why would his wife Lucy not have mentioned this?.<ref>{{Nibley11_1|start=115}}</ref>  She in fact makes it clear in her affidavit that Martin did believe in Mormonism to the point of having "no one in his house that did not believe in Mormonism"<ref>Eber D. Howe, ''Mormonism Unvailed'' (Painesville, Ohio: Telegraph Press, 1834), 255. <nowiki>http://www.solomonspalding.com/docs/1834howf.htm</nowiki></ref>

With regards to the motives to make money, it makes sense that both Abigail and Lucy would testify this way against Martin. But they may have been selectively remembering this. Keep in mind that Martin had a firm conviction of the Book of Mormon, which Lucy makes more than clear in her statement. What if Martin, in the first instance of the statement being made, meant to assuage Lucy's concern over mortgaging the Harris farm to fund the publication of the Book of Mormon? It's a plausible interpretation that can cut back some of the exaggerations in their statements fomented by Howe's impetus and their shared prejudice of Martin looking back. It would be especially understandable if Martin's history of abuse reported by Lucy is true (which it likely is).

==Martin may have had feelings towards the supposed "Mrs. Haggard" but evidence of adultery is simply inconclusive.==
In regard to Mrs. Haggard, it seems as though Martin may have had some feelings for this woman. Lucy seems to be very honest in her portrayal of Martin's behavior. Additionally, a contemporary revelation given to Joseph Smith (summer of 1829) states:  "25 And again, I command thee that thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife; nor seek thy neighbor’s life." ([https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/19.25?lang=eng#24 D&C 19:25]). Beyond this, however, there does not seem to be any conclusive evidence of Martin committing adultery with this woman.

==Lucy still testifies to Martin's industriousness and implies that he was a respected individual in the community prior to publication of the Book of Mormon.==

Lucy wrote:

::Martin Harris was once industrious[ly] attentive to his domestic concerns, and thought to be worth about ten thousand dollars.

::[. . .]

::It is in vain for the Mormons to deny these facts; for they are all well known to most of his former neighbors. The man has now become rather an object of pity; he has spent most of his property, and '''lost the confidence of his former friends. If he had labored as hard on his farm as he has to make Mormons, he might now be one of the wealthiest farmers in the country.''' He now spends his time in travelling through the country spreading the delusion of Mormonism, and has no regard whatever for his family. 

Lucy implies that Martin was considered respected in the community prior to the mortgaging of his farm in support of the Book of Mormon.

==Addressing the Abuse==
Lucy's report of abuse is the most disheartening of the affdavit. While on one hand Lucy may have exaggerated some of the elements about Martin, these claims are those to take most seriously. She stated: 

::He is naturally quick in his temper and his mad-fits frequently abuses all who may dare to oppose him in his wishes. However strange it may seem, I have been a great sufferer by his unreasonable conduct. At different times while I lived with him, he has whipped, kicked, and turned me out of the house. About a year previous to the report being raised that Smith had found gold plates, he became very intimate with the Smith family, and said he believed Joseph could see in his stone any thing he wished.  After this he apparently became very sanguine in his belief, and frequently said he would have no one in his house that did not believe in Mormonism; and because I would not give credit to the report he made about the gold plates, he became more austere towards me. In one of his fits of rage he struck me with the but end of a whip, which I think had been used for driving oxen, and was about the size of my thumb, and three or four feet long. He beat me on the head four or five times, and the next day turned me out of doors twice, and beat me in a shameful manner.&mdash;

::The next day I went to the town of Marion, and while there my flesh was black and blue in many places. His main complaint against me was, that I was always trying to hinder his making money. 

::When he found out that I was going to Mr. Putnam's, in Marion, he said he was going too, but they had sent for him to pay them a visit. On arriving at Mr. Putnam's, I asked them if they had sent for Mr. Harris; they replied, they knew nothing about it; he, however, came in the evening. Mrs. Putnam told him never to strike or abuse me any more; he then denied ever striking me; she was however convinced that he lied, as the marks of his beating me were plain to be seen, and remained more than two weeks. Whether the Mormon religion be true or false, I leave the world to judge, for its effects upon Martin Harris have been to make him more cross, turbulent and abusive to me. His whole object was to make money by it.

Perhaps we can demonstrate a little skepticism towards the event since it comes years after the fact.<ref>Susan Easton Black and Larry C. Porter, ''Martin Harris: Uncompromising Witness of the Book of Mormon'' (Provo, UT: BYU Studies, 2018), 253. ISBN 9781942161554: "Anderson suggests in his set of criteria, it is necessary to be aware of 'statements of contemporaries [that] show a distinct tendency to report community rumor, not personal experience.'" Citing Richard Lloyd Anderson, "Joseph Smith's New York Reputation Reappraised," ''BYU Studies'' 10, no. 3 (1970): 283-314.</ref> But that should be balanced with how we've interpreted Lucy's statements in the rest of the affidavit—as reliable. If we rely on her to dispel the claim from Abigail, and we rely on her to not give a definitive declaration of Martin's involvement with Mrs. Haggard, and if we rely on her as reliable to establish Martin as industrious and well-respected, then we should give Lucy some trust in stating that she was abused. Abuse connected to disagreement over the legitimacy of Joseph's claims is a more than plausible reason for Lucy and Martin's separation in 1830. While on one hand we may use Lucy's affirmation of Harris' industriousness and his firm conviction of the Book of Mormon as a positive evidence for the Book of Mormon, we should also recognize, like two accomplished historians noted about Martin, that "Martin was certainly not free from inherent human frailties and foibles, some of which are enumerated in ''Mormonism Unvailed''."<ref>Black and Porter, "Uncompromising Witness" Ibid.</ref> We can recognize his contributions to the Book of Mormon and the work of God while also condemning and also extending charity to his more negative qualities.

=What do the Hurlbut affidavits say about Joseph Smith claiming that he was "as good as Jesus Christ"?=
==Three individuals who made their depositions together said that Joseph Smith claimed that he was "as good as Jesus Christ"==
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===Levi Lewis===
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*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Jr. and Martin Harris said that "adultery was no crime."
*Claimed that he "knows Smith to be a liar."
*Claimed that he heard Joseph Smith say that he "was as '''good as Jesus Christ'''."
*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Jr. told him "[w]ith regard to the plates, Smith said God had deceived him."
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* Martin Harris would later be charged with slander for accusing a woman ([[Did_Joseph_have_lustful_motives_for_practicing_polygamy%3F#Eliza Winters|Eliza Winters]]) of having a "bastard child."  He was acquitted of this charge, but it is inconsistent with Lewis' claim for Martin to suffer jail and risk slander charges over an issue which he regards as "no crime."  The story is implausible.
* Joseph repeatedly testified (as did others) that he had the plates, and that others and seen them.  That Lewis claims otherwise is likewise implausible.
* Joseph's early private letters reveal him to be humble and painfully aware of his dependence on God.  The claim about him being "as good as Jesus Christ" is inconsistent with this private, contemporary evidence.
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===Sophia Lewis===
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*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Jr. said that he "was as '''good as Jesus Christ'''."
*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Jr. said that "the Book of Plates could not be opened under penalty of death by any other person but his (Smith's) first-born, which was to be a male."
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*On the threat that no one could see the gold plates and live, see: [[Viewing gold plates would result in death]]
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===Hezekiah M'Kune===
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*Claimed that Joseph Smith said "he was '''nearly equal to Jesus Christ'''."
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* Joseph's early private letters reveal him to be humble and painfully aware of his dependence on God.  The claim about him being "as good as Jesus Christ" is inconsistent with this private, contemporary evidence.
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==Hezekiah M'Kune, Levi Lewis and Sophia Lewis went together to make their depositions before the justice and their testimonies bear a remarkable similarity==
*Hezekiah M'Kune, Levi Lewis and Sophia Lewis went together to make their depositions before the justice. Their testimonies bear a remarkable similarity and contain the unique claim that Joseph claimed to be "as good as Jesus Christ." This claim is not related by any other individuals who knew the Prophet, suggesting that these three individuals planned and coordinated their story before giving their depositions.<ref>{{Nibley11_1|start=128}}</ref>

=What do the Hurlbut affidavits say about the Spalding manuscript and the Book of Mormon?=
==Hurlbut's affidavits regarding the Spalding manuscript consist of interviews with family and associates of Solomon Spalding==

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===Artemas Cunningham===
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*Claimed to have '''"partially examined" the "Mormon Bible."'''
*Claimed that Spalding's manuscript was called "Manuscript Found."
*Claimed "to remember the name of '''Nephi'''" as the "principal hero."
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===Nahum Howard===
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*Claimed to have "'''lately read the Book of Mormon'''."
*Claimed that it was the same as Spalding wrote, '''"except the religious part."''''
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===Henry Lake===
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*Claimed to have recently '''"commenced reading [The Book of Mormon] aloud."'''
*Claimed that Spalding's work frequently used the words "it came to pass."

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===John Miller===
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*Claimed to have '''"recently examined the Book of Mormon."'''
*Claimed that the Book of Mormon was '''"mixed up with scripture and other religious matter, which I did not meet with in the "Manuscript Found."'''
*Claimed that '''"Nephi, Lehi, Moroni"''' were the "principal names" in Spalding's book.
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===Oliver Smith===
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*Claimed that "'''Nephi and Lehi''' were by [Spalding] represented as leading characters."
*Claimed that Spalding included '''"no religious matter"''' in his book.
*Claimed that "I obtained the book [of Mormon], and on reading it, found much of it the same as Spalding had written."
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===John Spalding===
(Brother of Solomon Spalding)
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*Claimed to have "'''recently read the Book of Mormon'''."
*Claimed that Spalding's book was entitled ''The Manuscript Found''.
*Claimed that the book attempted to show that the American Indians are the descendents of the Jews.
*Claimed that the leaders of the group were called '''"Nephi" and "Lehi."'''
*Claimed that the book described two nations called the "Nephites" and the "Lamanites."
*Claimed that the people described in Spalding's book buried their dead in large mounds.
*Claimed that many sentences in Spalding's book began with "it came to pass."
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===Martha Spalding===
(wife of Solomon Spalding)
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*Claimed that she had "'''read the Book of Mormon'''."
*Claimed that the Book of Mormon was based upon Spalding's story.
*Claimed that "the names of '''Nephi and Lehi''' are yet fresh in my memory, as being the principal heroes of his tale."
*Claimed that Spalding's characters separated into two nations, "one of which was called Lamanites and the other Nephites."
*Claimed that Spalding's tale told of the dead "being buried in large heaps was the cause of the numerous mounds in the country."
*Claimed that Spalding's manuscript used the words "it came to pass."
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===Aaron Wright===
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*Claimed that the Book of Mormon following the Spalding story, '''"excepting the religious matter."'''
*Claimed that "the names more especially are the same without any alteration."
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==Most of the Spalding-related affidavits make very similar claims, such as the repeated statements that "Nephi" and "Lehi" figured prominently in Spalding's story==

Most of the Spalding-related affidavits make very similar claims, such as the repeated statements that "Nephi" and "Lehi" figured prominently in Spalding's story and that the person making the claim had "recently" read the ''Book of Mormon'' and recognized it as being similar to Spalding's work. The recovered Spalding manuscript, however, bears no resemblance to any of these claims. For this reason, critics who support the Spalding theory have assumed the existence of a ''second'' Spalding manuscript, despite absolutely no evidence to support this.

==The Spalding theory requires that Sidney Rigdon secretly meet Joseph Smith before the organization of the Church==

The Spalding theory requires that Sidney Rigdon secretly meet Joseph Smith before the organization of the Church, and provide him with the Book of Mormon manuscript.  John Stafford, oldest son of [[#William Stafford|William Stafford]] was asked about this:

{{JohnStaffordOnRigdon}}

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