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=What is Joseph Smith's 1832 prophecy of the Civil War?=
==The prophecy was given 25 December 1832 and is given in Doctrine and Covenants 87:1-8==

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1 VERILY, thus saith the Lord concerning the wars that will shortly come to pass, beginning at the rebellion of South Carolina, which will eventually terminate in the death and misery of many souls;

2 And the time will come that war will be poured out upon all nations, beginning at this place.

3 For behold, the Southern States shall be divided against the Northern States, and the Southern States will call on other nations, even the nation of Great Britain, as it is called, and they shall also call upon other nations, in order to defend themselves against other nations; and then war shall be poured out upon all nations.

4 And it shall come to pass, after many days, slaves shall rise up against their masters, who shall be marshaled and disciplined for war.

5 And it shall come to pass also that the remnants who are left of the land will marshal themselves, and shall become exceedingly angry, and shall vex the Gentiles with a sore vexation.

6 And thus, with the sword and by bloodshed the inhabitants of the earth shall mourn; and with famine, and plague, and earthquake, and the thunder of heaven, and the fierce and vivid lightning also, shall the inhabitants of the earth be made to feel the wrath, and indignation, and chastening hand of an Almighty God, until the consumption decreed hath made a full end of all nations;

7 That the cry of the saints, and of the blood of the saints, shall cease to come up into the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth, from the earth, to be avenged of their enemies.

8 Wherefore, stand ye in holy places, and be not moved, until the day of the Lord come; for behold, it cometh quickly, saith the Lord.  Amen. ({{s||D&C|87|1-8}})
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Attempts to explain away this prophecy fail on multiple grounds.  It is no surprise that nineteenth-century members of the Church 
consistently saw the Civil War as a fulfillment of prophecy, and evidence of Joseph Smith's prophetic gifts.

=After the end of the rebellion in South Carolina, did the Church not mention the Civil War prophecy for many years?=
==Joseph Smith reiterated the prophecy in 1842, and added more detail, 19 years before the Civil War==

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12 I prophesy, in the name of the Lord God, that the commencement of the difficulties which will cause much bloodshed previous to the coming of the Son of Man will be in South Carolina.

13 It may probably arise through the slave question.  This a voice declared to me, while I was praying earnestly on the subject, December 25th, 1832. ({{s||D&C|130|12-13}})
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==Orson Pratt preached about the prophesy in 1832, 29 years before the Civil War==

Orson Pratt testified that he began preaching the prophecy soon after it was given.  In 1870, he said:

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I went forth before my beard was gray, before my hair began to turn white, '''when I was a youth of nineteen''', now I am fifty-eight, and from that time on I published these tidings among the inhabitants of the earth. '''I carried forth the written revelation, foretelling this great contest, some twenty-eight years before the war commenced. This prophecy has been printed and circulated extensively in this and other nations and languages.''' It pointed out the place where it should commence in South Carolina. That which I declared over the New England States, New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and many other parts in the East, when but a boy, came to pass twenty-eight years after the revelation was given.

When they were talking about a war commencing down here in Kansas, I told them that was not the place; I also told them that the revelation had designated South Carolina, "and," said I, "you have no need to think that the Kansas war is going to be the war that is to be so terribly destructive in its character and nature. No, it must commence at the place the Lord has designated by revelation."

What did they have to say to me? They thought it was a Mormon humbug, and laughed me to scorn, and they looked upon that revelation as they do upon all others that God has given in these latter days—as without divine authority. But behold and lo! in process of time it came to pass, again establishing the divinity of this work, and giving another proof that God is in this work, and is performing that which He spoke by the mouths of the ancient prophets, as recorded in the Book of Mormon before any Church of Latter-day Saints was in existence.<ref>{{JDfairwiki|author=Orson Pratt|article=The Latter-day Kingdom of God, etc|vol=13|disc=16|start=135|date= 10 April 1870}}</ref>
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Thus, Orson Pratt indicates that not only did he preach regarding Joseph's prophesy in 1832, but that he was ridiculed for it.  He would also remember:

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Now I am aware that it is almost impossible for even some of the Latter-day Saints to get that confidence and that strong faith in the events which God intends to accomplish on this land in the future to believe in such a thing, to say nothing about outsiders, that do not believe a word of it. Outsiders do not believe it any more than they believed me when I was a boy and took that revelation which was given in 1832, and carried it forth among many towns and cities and told them there was to be a great and terrible war between the North and the South, and read to them the revelation. Did they believe it? Would they consider that there was any truth in it? Not in the least, "that is a Mormon humbug" they would say. "What! this great and powerful nation of ours to be divided one part against the other and many hundreds of thousands of souls to be destroyed by civil wars!" Not a word of it would they believe. They do not believe what is still in the future.<ref>{{JDfairwiki|author=Orson Pratt|date= 27 December 1868|vol=12|disc=64|start=344}}</ref>
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==The Church printed the prophecy in the ''Pearl of Great Price'' in 1851, ten years before the Civil War==

The Church also printed the prophecy in the ''Pearl of Great Price'' in 1851, and continued to publicize it until the Civil War.  Clearly, they did not keep it "under wraps" until the Civil War became inevitable.<ref>{{EoM1|author=Paul H. Peterson|article=[http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Civil_War_Prophecy Civil War Prophecy]|vol=1|start=288}}</ref>

==Orson Pratt also included the full prophecy from December 1832 on the front page of his publication ''The Seer'' in April 1854, seven years before the Civil War==

Orson Pratt also included the full prophecy from December 1832 on the front page of his publication ''The Seer'' in April 1854, with interpretation and editorial comment for 6 pages.<ref>Editor [Orson Pratt], "A Revelation and Prophecy by the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator, Joseph Smith," ''The Seer'' 2/4 (April 1854): 241&ndash;247.</ref>  There are also many extant manuscript copies of the prophecy, in the handwriting of men who left the church before Joseph Smith died, and some who didn't (WW Phelps, Thomas Bullock, Willard Richards [who died before the Civil War], Edward Partridge, Algernon Sidney Gilbert, Frederick G. Williams).<ref>Robert Woodford, The Historical Development of the Doctrine and Covenants, Ph.D. Dissertation, Brigham Young University, 1974, 1104&ndash;1124.</ref>

==The ''Philadelphia Sunday Mercury'' quoted the prophecy in 1851, ten years before the Civil War==

Robert Woodford's Ph.D. thesis also located a an article in a Philadelphia paper quoting the revelation from 1851, with comments, from May 1861; it was reprinted in England a month later:

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Philadelphia Sunday Mercury, Sunday May 5, 1861

A MORMON PROPHECY               

We have in our possession a pamphlet, published at Liverpool, in 1851, containing a selection from the ‘revelations, translations and narratives’ of Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism.  The following prophecy is here said to have been made by Smith, on the 25th of December, 1832.  In view of our present troubles, this prediction seems to be in progress of fulfilment, whether Joe Smith was a humbug or not:

‘A REVELATION AND PROPHECY BY THE PROPHET, SEER, AND REVELATOR, JOSEPH SMITH.  Verily thus saith the Lord…. Amen [complete text quoted]’

The war began in South Carolina.  Insurrections of slaves are already dreaded.  Famine will certainly afflict some Southern communities.  The interference of Great Britain, on account of the want of cotton, is not improbable, if the war is protracted.  In the meantime, a general war in Europe appears to be imminent.  Have we not had a prophet among us?<ref>Woodford, "The Historical Development of the Doctrine and Covenants," 1110, 1111 (figures 12 and 13) [figures contain photocopy of the masthead of each newspaper, and the article itself].</ref>
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Clearly, members of the Church did not hide the prophecy, and spread it far and wide among themselves and among others from the 1830s until its fulfillment in the 1860s.

=Did the Church cover up the fact that the Civil War prophecy was made during the 1832 rebellion in South Carolina?=
==No American statesman in 1832 believed that the doctrines of secession then talked of would result in a great civil war==

It is claimed that Mormons "cover up the fact that the 'prophecy' was made in the midst of an earlier rebellion in December 1832. That rebellion ended quietly a few months later."<ref>''The God Makers'', 224, lines 21-24; cited by {{TruthGodmakers1|start=Chapter 15}} {{link1|url=http://www.fairlds.org/The_God_Makers/tagm31.html}}</ref>

This claim, however, is false.  Gil Scharffs noted that critics "are correct when they say Joseph Smith announced the Civil War prophecy when rebellion in South Carolina was threatening. A large 1832 rebellion never materialized and the threat ended a few months later."<ref>{{TruthGodmakers1|start=Chapter 15}} {{link1|url=http://www.fairlds.org/The_God_Makers/tagm31.html}}</ref>

No American statesman in 1832 believed that the doctrines of secession then talked of would result in a great civil war. None of them had the foresight to see that a great rebellion would occur, beginning in South Carolina; that it would terminate in the death and misery of many souls; that the Southern States would be divided against the Northern States; that the Southern States would call on Great Britain, and that war would eventually be poured out upon all nations. No one foresaw that this would be the result except Joseph Smith--when but twenty-seven years of age--and he saw it only by the spirit of prophecy and revelation. To be required to believe that the prophecy was merely the fortunate conjecture of a more than ordinary astute mind, requires a greater amount of credulity than to concede the inspiration of the Prophet; and then the question would still remain, why is it that sagacious minds in other generations have not paralleled this astuteness of Joseph Smith's? Why did not some of the brilliant minds in the Senate or House of Representatives in 1832 make such a prediction? There was not a lack of brilliant minds in either Senate or House at that time, yet none seemed equal to the task.<ref>{{Book:Roberts:New Witnesses for God|vol=1|pages=319}}</ref>

The fact that there were rumors of war is in fact a fulfillment of prophecy itself! ({{b||Matthew|24|6-7}}) The question is not were there rumors of war, but the question should be, did the events take place just as Joseph Smith said they would. As soon as Joseph uttered the words "Thus saith the Lord" he was tied to the prophecy being true or false, and if the events did not happen as he said, then, and only then, could it be declared a false prophecy.

==Wars would shortly come to pass, beginning with the rebellion of South Carolina, which would eventually terminate in war being poured out upon all nations and in the death and misery of many souls==

It was because of this fact that the Lord made known to Joseph Smith this revelation stating that wars would shortly come to pass, beginning with the rebellion of South Carolina, which would eventually terminate in war being poured out upon all nations and in the death and misery of many souls. It may have been an easy thing in 1832, or even 1831, for someone to predict that there would come a division of the Northern States and the Southern States, for even then there were rumblings, and South Carolina had shown the spirit of rebellion. It was not, however, within the power of man to predict in the detail which the Lord revealed to Joseph Smith, what was shortly to come to pass as an outgrowth of the Civil War and the pouring out of war upon all nations. It must be conceded that no one, except Joseph Smith, ever entered into such detail in relation to this conflict or stated with such assurance that the time would come when all nations would be involved in war, The revelation begins with these words: "Verily, thus saith the Lord, concerning the wars that will shortly come to pass beginning at the rebellion of South Carolina, which will eventually terminate in the death and misery of many souls; and the time will come that war will be poured out upon all nations, beginning at this place." This, certainly, is a bold prediction which no one, other than Joseph Smith, dared to make.<ref name="jfs">{{Book:Smith:Church History and Modern Revelation}}</ref>{{Rp|2:123}}

=Was Joseph Smith's 1832 prophecy of the Civil War invalid because a civil war was "inevitable," and "anyone" could have predicted it?=
==There is no evidence that Americans were predicting a Civil War between 1832-1851==

So, was the prophecy "so obvious" that anyone could have predicted it?  The critics must prove this contention.  

Where is the evidence that most Americans were predicting a Civil War between 1832-1851?  Why was Orson Pratt ridiculed if this was obvious to everyone?  This seems a desperate attempt by the critics to dismiss a "hit" by Joseph.  Everything can look obvious in retrospect if one doesn't know history.

==There is, in fact, good contemporary evidence that this prophecy was mocked by prominent authors only 4 years before the Civil War began==

A newspaper article from 1857 reported a garbled version of the prophecy, but the author's scorn is clear:

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New beauties are being revealed in the Mormon faith almost every day, and new prophecies of Joe Smith fulfilled. When any event of state occurs, or any remarkable circumstance happens, some of the Mormon apostles find a prophecy of Joseph’s (probably dated twenty-five years ago), which has just been fulfilled by the occurrence.  These prophecies are never spoken of until after the occurrence.  The fact is, the leaders frame the prophecy themselves after its fulfillment.  Joe Smith did at one time prophecy that before the year 1860, '''the Union would be divided, the havoc of war spread over our glorious Republic, battles be fought whose equal was never before known, father would be arrayed against son, and brother against brother, and that our glorious Republic would be stained with human blood from North to South''', the Constitution be trampled upon, and the Government fall to the ground; and then would the little band of Mormons rear the standard of their creed aloft, and proclaim to the world that the millennial year had been ushered in, and the reign of Christ begun. {{ea}}

But methinks the Mormons can entertain but '''little hope of the fulfillment of that prophecy''', as the Union has stood the strongest test and did not even shake.  But when I shall see the above prophecy come to pass, I shall probably then change my mind about the truth of the revelation.  At present, I see no chance of its verification within the time specified.<Ref>"O.P.M.," "Mormonism and its Origin, Number 4," ''The Golden Era'' San Francisco (18 October 1857). [Thanks to Ted Jones for this reference.]</ref>
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=Was Joseph Smith's 1832 prophecy of the Civil War invalid because "war was not brought to all nations" by the Civil War and/or claiming there is "no link" between the Civil War and later conflicts?=
==The Civil War was, indeed, a bloody war, resulting in about 204,000 battle casualties plus another 225,000 military personnel who died of disease==

Significantly, the prophesy warns of "the death and misery of many souls." The Civil War was, indeed, a bloody war, resulting in about 204,000 battle casualties plus another 225,000 military personnel who died of disease. This number actually well exceeds the American battle deaths (128,000) in World War I. In World War II, there were 396,637 battle deaths.<ref name="sermons">{{Book:Maxwell:Sermons Not Spoken|pages=66}}</ref>

Here are some figures concerning another war (World War I).

Authoritative tables give the grand total of all armies mobilized at 59,176,864. Direct military deaths out of this number are set down as 7,781,806; the wounded at 18,681,257; prisoners and missing 7,080,580; making a total of direct military casualties of 33,434,443. This is only a statement of military casualties however. The same authority sets down the number of civilians as being greater from famine, disease, and massacres than those who fell in the military operations. Of these two classes are named: civilians who were killed by direct military causes, and those who died from indirect causes. Of the first class the number was 100,082; and the second--those who died from indirect causes, among the Armenians, Syrians, Jews, and Greeks--massacred or starved by the Turks--are numbered at 4,000,000. The deaths numbered beyond the normal mortality of influenza and pneumonia induced by the war is placed at 4,000,000. The Serbians who died through diseases, or massacre, numbered 1,085,441. Making the total of deaths in these two classes 9,085,441, so that with military deaths and civilian deaths, resulting from the war, make a grand total of 16,967,329 deaths. And of the more than 18,000,000 who were wounded in battle 30% or about 6,000,000, were made permanent human wrecks.<ref name="chc">{{CHC}}</ref>{{Rp|1:302}}

==Following the Civil War, many nations entered into alliances and secret agreements in order to protect themselves from other nations==

Following the Civil War the nations, in their great alarm because of the new methods of warfare which were being developed and their fear of other nations, entered into alliances and secret agreements in order to protect themselves from other nations. At the outbreak of the World War, these alliances had reached proportions never before known, and during the war other alliances were made until nearly every nation on the earth had taken sides with the Triple Alliance or the Triple Entente. It was during the period of the World War, 1914-1918, Great Britain made her appeal to the nations to come to the defense of the standard of Democracy. Her pleadings were heard round the world. And what is still more remarkable, the entire procedure conforms exactly to the prediction made by Joseph Smith, viz: "they shall also call upon other nations in order to defend themselves against other nations." A plurality of nations aligned and allied on both sides of the deadly conflict.<ref name="jfs">{{Book:Smith:Church History and Modern Revelation}}</ref>{{Rp|2:125}}

==This revelation was not just about the American Civil War==

The revelation makes that very clear by first stating in verse one, "thus saith the Lord concerning the wars that will shortly come to pass." Notice that the word used is wars (plural), not war (singular), thereby "suggesting not one war but a continuum of conflict. Thus, like chapter 24 of Matthew, this scripture covered things both imminent and distant."<ref name="sermons"></ref>Of course, in our own time, we could add the war in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq, civil wars in Central America, Lebanon, the British-Argentine conflict, Desert Storm, etc.

In our several Indian uprisings since the close of the Civil War, many see the fulfillment of that part of the prophecy which declares that the "remnants who are left of the land [the American Indians] will marshal themselves, and shall become exceeding angry, and shall vex the Gentiles with a sore vexation."<ref name="chc"></ref>{{Rp|1:303}}

World history since 1861 demonstrates that armed conflict widened and persisted since the American Civil War.  There is nothing in the prophecy that claims that the Civil War must be the direct ''cause'' of on-going war, merely that on-going war will occur.  And, it will happen after "Great Britain" "shall...call upon other nations, in order to defend themselves":

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2 And ''the time will come'' that war will be poured out upon all nations, beginning at this place.

3 For behold, the Southern States shall be divided against the Northern States, and the Southern States will call on other nations, even the nation of Great Britain, as it is called, and they shall also call upon other nations, in order to defend themselves against other nations; and ''then war shall be poured out upon all nations.'' ({{s||D&C|87|2-3}})
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This is an excellent description of WW I and II, during which war ''was'' "poured out" into global battles.  And, since WW II war and strife has not ceased.

An [http://www.onwar.com/aced/chrono/index.htm on-line] database of armed conflict demonstrates that there has not been a single year since the end of the Civil War in which a war or armed conflict did not ''begin'', and many of these wars lasted for multiple years (or even, in some cases) decades. (Click [http://pool.fairmormon.org/wiki/images/8/8b/World_Conflicts_1865-1950.pdf here] to download a PDF from this on-line database listing the wars from 1865-1950.)

=Was Joseph Smith's 1832 prophecy of the Civil War invalid because slaves did not rise up against their masters in the Civil War?=
==Of the 2,653,000 soldiers enlisted on the side of the Union, 186,397 were colored, and many of them saw active service in the field against their former masters==

In the part taken by negroes in the war between the states, many see the fulfillment of the prediction of the revelation that "slaves shall rise up against their masters, who shall be marshaled and disciplined for war;" for of the 2,653,000 soldiers enlisted on the side of the Union, 186,397 were colored, and many of them saw active service in the field against their former masters.<ref name="chc">{{CHC}}</ref>{{Rp|1:302-303}}<ref>"American Civil War: Slavery during the war," ''wikipedia.org'' (accessed 15 Jan 2009) {{link|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War#Slavery_during_the_war}}</ref>  However, the prophecy does not tie slave rebellions directly to the Civil War.  After discussing the call on other nations for assistance, the prophecy reads:

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4 And it shall come to pass, after many days, slaves shall rise up against their masters, who shall be marshaled and disciplined for war.({{s||D&C|87|4}})
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The phrase "it came to pass," and related forms generally indicates a transition in subject or time.  The prophecy is clear that the revolt of slaves will come "after many days," which in scriptural language (remember Jesus' second coming was "near," and "even at the door") generally suggests a fairly long period of time.

The prophecy also could refer to past race riots in the U.S. and other countries, uprisings in African nations against their governments, the liberation of peoples under dictatorships throughout the world, or some future liberation of those forced to fight against their will for totalitarian regimes.

=What accounts of the Civil War prophecy were given by Latter-day Saint leaders?=
==Other accounts of the prophecy from LDS leaders==

The contemporary evidence is complemented by accounts given later by LDS leaders and members:

*I copied a revelation more than twenty-five years ago, in which it is stated that war should be in the south and in the north, and that nation after nation would become embroiled in the tumult and excitement, until war should be poured out upon the whole earth, and that this war would commence at the rebellion of South Carolina, and that times should be such that every man who did not flee to Zion would have to take up the sword against his neighbor or against his brother. These things are beginning to be made manifest, but the end is not yet; but it will come, and that too much sooner than the world of mankind anticipate, and all those things spoken by the mouths of his Prophets will be fulfilled.<ref>{{JDfairwiki|author=Wilford Woodruff|date=July 27, 1862|vol=10|disc=3|start=13}}</ref>

*The Lord has led this people out of bondage with a high hand and an outstretched arm. No man acquainted with the history of this people is ignorant of the almighty power of God that has been manifested in the organization, growth and present condition of the Church, though they may be unable naturally to account for it. And the more we grow and prosper, the more our enemies are angry with us. They are angry with us because we told them, thirty years ago, that calamity would come upon this nation. Their anger still increases, while they are drinking of the bitter cup; and at the same time the Saints are increasing in numbers, in faith, in hope, in wealth and in power. I have talked with men who professed to be gentlemen and dispensers of life and salvation to the people, who, Pharaoh-like, declared that they would rather be damned than believe that Joseph Smith was a true Prophet of God. I promised them they should have their choice.<ref>{{JDfairwiki|author=Brigham Young|date=September 28, 1862|vol=10|disc=1|start=4}}</ref>

* We are under no necessity of sending forth the Elders of Israel in the condition that we have hitherto had to do; in fact, it would not be safe for a man to shoulder his valise and tramp through the States as the Elders used to do. Bloodshed, robbery, murder, jay-hawking (a polite name for robbery,) stalks abroad throughout the land, and the only chance for safety is for every man to pass along about his business and be silent; this is the case in many parts of the country. The fact that Joseph Smith predicted the present trouble and state of affairs—prophesied the result of mobbing the Saints in Missouri and elsewhere, enrages them; instead of the fulfillment of that prophecy making the people of the country friendly to us, it makes them bloodthirsty, more filled with hell, more eager to waste and destroy and crush out the last remaining particle of truth that may exist on the face of the land.<ref>{{JDfairwiki|author=George A. Smith|date=April 6, 1863|vol=10|disc=32|start=144}}</ref>

* These things ought to be a warning to us. We comfort our souls sometimes on the fulfillment of the prophecies of God. We say "Mormonism" must be true because Joseph Smith prophesied thus and so concerning a division of this nation, and that the calamities which are now causing it to mourn should commence in South Carolina. That is true, he did prophecy that, and did foretell the events that have since transpired, and did tell where the commencement of those difficulties should originate. Well, if this is true, are not other things true? If it is true that the Lord has revealed a certain amount of truth in relation to these matters, is it not as true that He has revealed other truths in which we are as individuals interested; and if it is true that God has commenced to deal with other nations as He is doing with this until war and desolation shall spread through the earth, it is just as true that we ought to be very careful what we are doing to secure the favor of God and to fulfill our destiny upon the earth in a manner which will meet his designs.<ref>{{JDfairwiki|author=John Taylor|date=October 25, 1863|vol=10|disc=54|start=278}}</ref>

''For further discussion on the Saints' attitude to the Civil War, both before and after its outbreak, see [[One_Nation_Under_Gods/Use_of_sources/Attitude of Saints to Civil War prophecy|Attitude of Saints to Civil War prophecy]].

Every student of United States history is acquainted with the facts establishing a complete fulfilment of this prophecy. In 1861, more than twenty-eight years after the foregoing prediction was recorded, and ten years after its publication in England, the Civil War broke out. It is known the Confederate States solicited aid of Great Britain. While no open alliance between the Southern States and the English government was effected, British influence gave indirect assistance and substantial encouragement to the South, and this in such a way as to produce serious international complications. Vessels were built and equipped at British ports in the interests of the Confederacy; and the results of this violation of the laws of neutrality cost Great Britain fifteen and a half millions of dollars, which sum was awarded the United States at the Geneva arbitration in settlement of the Alabama claims. The Confederacy appointed commissioners to Great Britain and France; these appointees were forcibly taken by United States officers from the British steamer on which they had embarked. This act, which the United States government had to admit as overt, threatened for a time to precipitate a war between this nation and Great Britain.<ref>{{Book:Talmage:Articles of Faith|pages=25-26}}</ref>

=Did Joseph Smith prophesy that the government would be overthrown and wasted?=
==The prophecy has already been amply fulfilled by events in Missouri and the United States soon after Joseph's death==

On 6 May 1843, Joseph Smith said:

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'I prophecy in the name of the Lord God of Israel, unless the United States redress the wrongs committed upon the Saints in the state of Missouri and punish the crimes committed by her officers that in a few years the government will be utterly overthrown and wasted, and there will not be so much as a potsherd left for their wickedness in permitting the murder of men, women and children, and the wholesale plunder and extermination of thousands of her citizens to go unpunished, thereby perpetrating a foul and corroding blot upon the fair fame of this great republic, the very thought of which would have caused the high-minded and patriotic framers of the Constitution of the United States to hide their faces with shame.  Judge [Stephen A. Douglas], you will aspire to the Presidency of the United States; and if you ever turn your hand against me or the Latter-day Saints, you will feel the weight of the hand of the Almighty upon you; and you will live to see and know that I have testified the truth to you; for the conversation of this day will stick to you through life.<ref>{{HoC1|vol=5|start=394}}</ref>
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Since it is more than 150 years since this prophecy was uttered, and because the US government still exists, it is claimed that this is a false prophecy. However, the prophecy has already been amply fulfilled by events in Missouri and the United States soon after Joseph's death.

==Missouri suffered greatly during the Civil War==

Missouri suffered greatly during the Civil War.  Over 1,200 distinct battles or skirmishes were fought on Missouri soil; only Tennessee and Virginia saw more action on their soil.  

Between 1862 and 1864, the western parts of Missouri endured guerrilla warfare.  Although guerrilla warfare occurred throughout much of the state, most of the incidents occurred in northern Missouri and were characterized by ambushes of individuals or families in rural areas. These incidents were particularly nefarious because their vigilante nature was outside the command and control of either side and often pitted neighbor against neighbor.

Among the more notorious incidents of guerrilla warfare were the Sacking of Osceola, burning of Platte City and the Centralia Massacre.

In 1863 following the Lawrence Massacre in Kansas, Union General Thomas Ewing, Jr. accused farmers in rural Missouri of either instigating the attack or supporting it. He issued General Order No. 11 which forced the evacuation of all residents of rural areas of the four counties ('''Jackson''', Cass, Bates and Vernon) south of the Missouri River on the Kansas border to leave their property, which was then burned. The order applied to farmers regardless of loyalty, although those who could prove their loyalty to the Union could stay in designated towns and those who could not were exiled entirely.<ref> "Missouri in the American Civil War," ''Wikipedia'' (accessed 3 January 2009) {{link|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_in_the_American_Civil_War}}.</ref>

LDS readers will recognize that Jackson county was notorious for its treatment of the Saints, and it was among those counties from which inhabitants were evacuated and a "scorched earth" policy implemented.  The commanding general ordered his men not to engage in looting or other depredations, but he proved unable to effectively control his soldiers, who were mostly Kansans eager to exact any revenge possible upon their Missouri neighbors. Animals and other property were stolen or destroyed, and houses, barns and outbuildings burnt to the ground. The area affected quickly became a devastated "no-man's-land", with only charred chimneys and burnt stubble remaining where once-fertile farms had stood.<ref>"General Order No. 11," ''Wikipedia'' (accessed 3 January 2009) {{link|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Order_%E2%84%96_11_(1863)}}.</ref>

If one read's Joseph's prophecy as referring at least partly to the government of Missouri, then it was fulfilled dramatically.  Nothing remained in many areas, and government in some areas broke down almost completely as various factions struggled for control.

==In the US government of Joseph's day, the Whigs had won the presidency and controlled the Senate: The Whigs were destroyed as a political power, never to recover==

In 1840, William Henry Harrison was elected as president on the Whig ticket.  He was to die within a month of taking office, succeeded by Vice-President John Tyler who was in office when Joseph made his prophecy in May 1843.  The Whig party was to fracture along pro- and anti-slavery lines, and by 1854 the northern Whigs left the party to join the new Republican party.  Others were later to join the Constitutional Union party, dedicated to the avoidance of civil war.  Following the Civil War, the Whigs in the south tried to regroup, but were soon absorbed into the Democratic party.<ref>"Whig Party (United States)," ''Wikipedia'' (accessed 3 January 2009) {{link|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whig_Party_(United_States)}}</ref>

Thus, in the US government of Joseph's day, the Whigs had won the presidency and controlled the Senate.  The Whigs were to be destroyed as a political power, never to recover.  The United States government was to be destroyed, since the secession of the South arguably remade the American political order.  Eleven states formed their own government as the Confederate States of America, and two states (Missouri and Kentucky) were split between pro-Union and pro-Confederate factions.  Even following the war, the Reconstruction era undertook the abolishment of the Confederacy, the reestablishment of Southern representation in the Congress, and a revamping of the United States constitution to change the relationship of the states to the federal government.

Chief among the constitutional changes was the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution Fourteenth Amendment], which made all citizens of the states citizens of the United States.  Thus:

<blockquote>
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
</blockquote>

This was a fundamental alteration of the government of the United States, and would have helped resolve many of the Saints' difficulties, had it been in place before the Civil War.  Joseph Smith would complain:

<blockquote>
I am the greatest advocate of the Constitution of the United States there is on the earth. In my feelings I am always ready to die for the protection of the weak and oppressed in their just rights. The only fault I find with the Constitution is, it is not broad enough to cover the whole ground.  

Although it provides that all men shall enjoy religious freedom, yet it does not provide the manner by which that freedom can be preserved, nor for the punishment of Government officers who refuse to protect the people in their religious rights, or punish those mobs, states, or communities who interfere with the rights of the people on account of their religion. Its sentiments are good, but it provides no means of enforcing them. It has but this one fault. Under its provision, a man or a people who are able to protect themselves can get along well enough; but those who have the misfortune to be weak or unpopular are left to the merciless rage of popular fury.<ref>{{HoC|vol=6|start=56|end=57}}</ref>
</blockquote>

The fourteenth amendment gave the federal government the power to enforce defense if the states failed to do so.  As George A. Smith noted:

<blockquote>
That is the situation we were in in Missouri when Governor Dunklin declared that the constitution and laws of Missouri could not be enforced so as to protect this people. It was virtually declaring us independent of that State, and acknowledging our right to protect ourselves in that capacity.<ref>{{JDfairwiki|vol=9|disc=20|start=110|author=George A. Smith|title=Difficulties With Which the Church Has Had to Contend in Its Establishment in Utah|date=10 September 1861}}</ref>
</blockquote>

G.A. Smith notes that Missouri could refuse to protect the Saints, and the federal government could not intervene.  The 14th amendment altered this state of affairs.  Elias Higbee's words to Congress would likewise insist that "I told them first, that I represented a suffering people, who had been deprived, together with myself, of their rights in Missouri; who numbered something like fifteen thousand souls; and not only they, but many others were deprived of the rights guaranteed to them by the Constitution of the United States."<ref>{{HoC1|vol=4|start=81}}</ref>

On this view, the United States government ''was'' remade following the Civil War.  The old order was gone.

==During the Civil War, members of the Church clearly saw the conflict as a fulfillment of Joseph's prophecy==

During the Civil War, members of the Church clearly saw the conflict as a fulfillment of Joseph's prophecy.  As one federal governor wrote in 1862, "Brigham Young and other preachers are constantly inculcating in the minds of the crowded audiences who sit beneath their teachings every Sabbath that the United States is of no consequence, that it lies in ruins, and that the prophecy of Joseph Smith is being fulfilled to the letter."<ref>Stephen S. Harding; cited in Eugene. E. Campbell, ''Establishing Zion: The Mormon Church in the American West, 1847-1869'' (Salt Lake City, Utah: Signature Books, 1988), 291.</ref>  Thus, the secession of the South and the start of the Civil War was regarded as fulfillment of prophecy.  As one author noted:

<blockquote>
Mormon leaders consistently expressed their feelings that the war had been brought on by the wickedness of the United States, which had rejected Mormonism and permitted the death of the prophet of God and his servants. Because no effort had been made to punish the guilty or to prevent recurrences, the Mormons saw no reason to wonder at secession and dismemberment of such a union. Although the waste of lives was lamentable, a war between the states would avenge the death of Joseph Smith.

The Saints seemed especially gratified that Jackson County was a war zone and that Missouri would suffer the penalty of its cruelties to the Mormons.<ref>Eugene. E. Campbell, ''Establishing Zion: The Mormon Church in the American West, 1847-1869'' (Salt Lake City, Utah: Signature Books, 1988), 291.</ref>
</blockquote>

==After the war, B.H. Roberts linked Joseph's prophecy to the Civil War, since it also forms part of the prophecy given to Stephen Douglas==

After the war, B.H. Roberts linked Joseph's prophecy to the Civil War, since it also forms part of the prophecy given to Stephen Douglas.  Noted Roberts:

<blockquote>
It would be mere conjecture, of course, to say what the result would have been had Stephen A. Douglas been true to the Saints--the people of his friend Joseph Smith. But certainly had he been elected in 1860 the Southern States would have had no such excuse for their great movement of secession as they at least persuaded themselves they had in the election of Abraham Lincoln. And had Mr. Douglas in the event of his election followed the counsel given to the government and people of the United States by Joseph Smith in respect to the question of slavery, that evil might have been abolished without the effusion of blood, and no place found in the history of the United States for that horrible conflict known as the American civil war.<ref>{{NewWitnessesForGod1 | article=The Evidence Of Prophecy|vol=1|start=311}}</ref>
</blockquote>

Thus, Roberts too saw the Civil War and its surrounding events as fulfillment of Joseph's prophecy.

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[[es:Pregunta: Después del final de la rebelión en Carolina del Sur, ¿la Iglesia no mencionó la profecía de la Guerra Civil de los Estados Unidos durante muchos años?]]
[[es:Pregunta: ¿Cuál es la profecía de José Smith de 1832 sobre la Guerra Civil de los Estados Unidos?]]
[[es:Pregunta: ¿José Smith profetizó que el gobierno de los Estados Unidos sería derrocado y desperdiciado?]]
[[es:Pregunta: ¿La Iglesia cubrió el hecho de que la profecía de la Guerra Civil de los Estados Unidos fue hecha durante la rebelión de 1832 en Carolina del Sur?]]
[[es:Pregunta: ¿La profecía de José Smith de 1832 de la Guerra Civil de los Estados Unidos fue inválida porque "la guerra no fue llevada a todas las naciones"?]]
[[es:Pregunta: ¿La profecía de José Smith de 1832 de la Guerra Civil de los Estados Unidos fue inválida porque los esclavos no se levantaron contra sus amos?]]
[[es:Pregunta: ¿La profecía de José Smith de 1832 de la Guerra Civil de los Estados Unidos fue inválida porque una guerra civil era "inevitable", y "cualquier persona" podría haberla predicho?]]
[[es:Pregunta: ¿Qué relatos de la profecía de la Guerra Civil de los Estados Unidos fueron dados por los líderes de los Santos de los Últimos Días?]]
[[fi:Kysymys: Mikä on Joseph Smithin 1832 sisällissodan profetia?]]
[[fi:Kysymys: Mitä myöhempien aikojen pyhien johtajat kertoivat sisällissota -profetiasta?]]
[[fi:Kysymys: Oliko Joseph Smithin 1832 profetia sisällissodasta pätemätön, koska sisällissotaa "ei voitu välttää" ja "kuka tahansa olisi sen voinut ennustaa?]]
[[fi:Kysymys: Oliko Joseph Smithin 1832 profetia sisällissodasta väärä, koska orjat eivät nousseet omistajiaan vastaan sisällissodassa?]]
[[fi:Kysymys: Oliko Joseph Smithin profetia sisällissodasta väärä, koska se ei "käsittänyt kaikkia maita"/ tai jos väitämme, että sisällissodan ja muiden myöhempien konfliktien välillä ei ollut yhteyttä?]]
[[fi:Kysymys: Peittelikö kirkko sitä, että sisällissodan profetia tehtiin 1832 Etelä-Carolinan kapinan aikana?]]
[[fi:Kysymys: Profetoiko Joseph Smith, että hallitus kaadettaisiin ja hävitettäisiin?]]
[[fi:Kysymys: South Carolinan kapinan jälkeen: eikö kirkko maininnut sisällissodan profetiaa moneen vuoteen?]]
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