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==Question: What are Joseph Smith's statements about Book of Mormon geography between 1829-1840?==
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===Joseph Smith made statements consistent with a wide variety of Book of Mormon geographies===

*It is claimed that Joseph Smith knew exactly where the events in the Book of Mormon occurred, and that these can be deduced from an examination of his statements regarding geography. 
*It is claimed that anyone who believes Joseph Smith's statements on geography to be simply his opinion is considered to be "discounting and disdaining" him. <ref>{{MeldrumDVD1}}</ref>

Joseph Smith made statements consistent with a wide variety of Book of Mormon geographies.  Critics and those pushing a theory as based upon "[[Book_of_Mormon_geography/Statements/No_revealed_geography|revelation]]" do not usually disclose how varied Joseph's views were.

{{SeeAlso|Book of Mormon geography/Disdaining the statements of Joseph Smith|Book of Mormon geography/Statements|l1=Disdaining the statements of Joseph Smith|l2=Book of Mormon geographical statements by Church leaders}}

The page lists statements related to Book of Mormon geography that are attributed to Joseph Smith.

====2 Feb 1833: ''American Revivalist''====

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The Book of Mormon is a record of the forefathers of our western tribes of Indians… By it, we learn that our western tribes of Indians, are descendants from that Joseph that was sold into Egypt, and that the land of America is a promised land unto them.<Ref>Joseph Smith, “Mormonism,” The ''American Revivalist and Rochester Observer'' 7/6 (February 2, 1833). Only the last two paragraphs of Joseph’s letter to the newspaper were printed. The entire letter appeared eleven years later in the November 15, 1844 issue of the ''Times and Seasons''.</ref>
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====3 June 1834: (Zion's Camp) The story of Zelph====
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====4 June 1834: (Zion's Camp) Joseph Smith believes that Illinois is the "plains of the Nephites"====
The following is taken from a letter written by Joseph Smith to his wife Emma during the trek known as "Zion's Camp".

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The whole of our journey, in the midst of so large a company of social honest and sincere men, wandering over the plains of the Nephites, recounting occasionally the history of the Book of Mormon, roving over the mounds of that once beloved people of the Lord, picking up their skulls & their bones, as a proof of its divine authenticity, and gazing upon a country the fertility, the splendour and the goodness so indescribable, all serves to pass away time unnoticed.<ref>{{PWJSOrig1| start=}}</ref>
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====November 1835: Journal account regarding Moroni's first visits====

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He told me of a sacred record which was written on plates of gold, I saw in the vision the place where they were deposited, he said the indians were the literal descendants of Abraham he explained many <strike>things</strike> of the prophesies to me<ref>JS Journal, Nov 1835 {{NC}}</ref> 
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====July 19, 1840: Joseph teaches that the Land of Zion consists of North and South America====
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...speaking of the '''Land of Zion, It consists of all N[orth] & S[outh] America''' but that any place where the Saints gather is Zion which every righteous man will build up for a place of safety for his children...'''The redemption of Zion is the redemption of all N[orth] & S[outh] America.'''" {{ea}}<ref>{{BYUS1|author=Martha Jane Knowlton Coray, [edited by Dean C. Jessee]|article=[https://byustudies.byu.edu/showtitle.aspx?title=5383 Joseph Smith's July 19, 1840 Discourse]|vol=19|num=3|date=Spring 1979|start=392}}</ref>
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====16 November 1841: Joseph dictates the Bernhisel letter====

John Bernhisel joined the LDS Church in 1837 while practicing medicine in New York City. In 1841 he was ordained bishop of the congregation in New York City. Bernhisel was a well-educated man, and in 1841 read ''Incidents of Travel in Central America, Chiapas, and Yucatan'' by John L. Stephens.

Impressed by the book, Bernhisel gave the two-volume work to Wilford Woodruff in September 1841 with instructions to make sure it was given to Joseph Smith. Woodruff, who was on his way back from England to Nauvoo, delivered the book, as requested.

It would appear that Joseph appreciated receiving the book, as he wrote a letter to Bernhisel acknowledging the gift. Dated November 16, 1841, the first paragraph of the letter is as follows:

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I received your kind present by the hand of Er Woodruff & feel myself under many obligations for this mark of your esteem & friendship which to me is the more interesting as it unfolds & developes many things that are of great importance to this generation & corresponds with & supports the testimony of the Book of Mormon; I have read the volumes with the greatest interest & pleasure & must say that of all histories that have been written pertaining to the antiquities of this country it is the most correct luminous & comprihensive.<ref>{{PWJS1|start=533}}</ref>
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====1 March 1842: Wentworth letter====

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I was also informed concerning the aboriginal inhabitants of this country, and shown who they were, and from whence they came; a brief sketch of their origin, progress, civilization, laws, governments, of their righteousness and iniquity, and the blessings of God being finally withdrawn from them as a people was made known unto me: I was also told where there was deposited some plates on which were engraven an abridgement [abridgment] of the records of the ancient prophets that had existed on this continent....

The principal nation of the second race fell in battle towards the close of the fourth century. The remnant are the Indians that now inhabit this country. This book also tells us that our Saviour [Savior] made his appearance upon this continent after his resurrection, that he planted the gospel here in all its fulness [fullness], and richness, and power, and blessing; that they had apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers and evangelists; the same order, the same priesthood, the same ordinances, gifts, powers, and blessing, as was enjoyed on the eastern continent, that the people were cut off in consequence of their transgressions…<ref>{{TS1|author=Joseph Smith|article=Church History|vol=3|num=9|date=1 March 1842|start=707}}. See also {{HC|vol=4|start=535|end=541}}</ref>
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====15 July 1842: Joseph Smith discusses high civilization in the Americas, uses mound-builders and Guatemalan ruins as an example====
NOTE: Page 862 of this issue of the ''Times and Seasons'' states: "The Times and Seasons, Is edited, printed and published about the first and fifteenth of every month, on the corner of Water and Bain Streets, Nauvoo, Hancock County, Illinois, by JOSEPH SMITH"

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If men, in their researches into the history of this country, in noticing the mounds, fortifications, statues, architecture, implements of war, of husbandry, and ornaments of silver, brass, &c.-were to examine the Book of Mormon, their conjectures would be removed, and their opinions altered; uncertainty and doubt would be changed into certainty and facts; and they would find that those things that they are anxiously prying into were matters of history, unfolded in that book. They would find their conjectures were more than realized-that a great and a mighty people had inhabited this continent-that the arts sciences and religion, had prevailed to a very great extent, and that there was as great and mighty cities on this continent as on the continent of Asia. Babylon, Ninevah, nor any of the ruins of the Levant could boast of more perfect sculpture, better architectural designs, and more imperishable ruins, than what are found on this continent. Stephens and Catherwood's researches in Central America abundantly testify of this thing. The stupendous ruins, the elegant sculpture, and the magnificence of the ruins of Guatamala [Guatemala], and other cities, corroborate this statement, and show that a great and mighty people-men of great minds, clear intellect, bright genius, and comprehensive designs inhabited this continent. Their ruins speak of their greatness; the Book of Mormen [Mormon] unfolds their history.-ED.<ref>{{TS1|author=Joseph Smith (editor)|article=American Antiquities|vol=3|num=18|date=15 July 1842|start=860}}</ref>
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This statement was signed "ED," which attributes it directly to Joseph Smith.

{{:Source:Times and Seasons:15 Sep 1842:these wonderful ruins of Palenque are among the mighty works of the Nephites}}

====1 Oct. 1842: Zarahemla "stood upon this land" of Central America====

NOTE: Page 942 of this issue of the Times and Seasons states: "The Times and Seasons, Is edited, printed and published about the first fifteenth of every month, on the corner of Water and Bain Streets, Nauvoo, Hancock County, Illinois, by JOSEPH SMITH."
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    [W]e have found another important fact relating to the truth of the Book of Mormon. Central America, or Guatimala [Guatemala], is situated north of the Isthmus of Darien and once embraced several hundred miles of territory from north to south.-The city of Zarahemla, burnt at the crucifixion of the Savior, and rebuilt afterwards, stood upon this land as will be seen from the following words in the book of Alma...It is certainly a good thing for the excellency and veracity, of the divine authenticity of the Book of Mormon, that the ruins of Zarahemla have been found where the Nephites left them: and that a large stone with engravings upon it as Mosiah said; and a 'large round stone, with the sides sculptured in hieroglyphics,' as Mr. Stephens has published, is also among the left remembrances of the, (to him,) lost and unknown. We are not going to declare positively that the ruins of Quirigua are those of Zarahemla, but when the land and the stones, and the books tell the story so plain, we are of opinion, that it would require more proof than the Jews could bring to prove the disciples stole the body of Jesus from the tomb, to prove that the ruins of the city in question, are not one of those referred to in the Book of Mormon...It will not be a bad plan to compare Mr. Stephens' ruined cities with those in the Book of Mormon: light cleaves to light, and facts are supported by facts.(emphasis added){{NC}}
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